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vienna · 07-07-15, 03:32 PM

As in most of these cases, a bit of historical facts are in order rather than sectarian/political posturing:

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...no-ist=&page=2

In these sort of discussions over such things as the Pledge, the National Anthem, etc., part of the problem is the perception by an alarming percentage of the population that those icons of American culture were born at the same time as the Nation, that the founders were somehow involved in the creation or design of what we see now a sacred national custom. Nothing could be further from the truth. The whole situation roughly parallels the Ten Commandments: there it is, the 'writ of God' yet it has been so degraded and filtered through various social, political, and avarice-based motivations, what the masses believe is the word, is not. So too with the US cultural heritage; the Constitution is exactly what is written, the Bill of Rights is as written, the further amendments are as they are written. The Pledge should have stayed as originally written, but was filtered for political expediency based on the motivations of religious groups seeking a greater primacy over the lives of others. This move to impose a fractional will over the whole flies directly in the face of what is written down by those who created this nation. The modification of the Pledge stands not as an act of patriotism, but as an act of defilement to the precepts that formed this nation and an insult to those who wrote the Constitution...

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,719 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	As in most of these cases, a bit of historical facts are in order rather than sectarian/political posturing: http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...no-ist=&page=2 In these sort of discussions over such things as the Pledge, the National Anthem, etc., part of the problem is the perception by an alarming percentage of the population that those icons of American culture were born at the same time as the Nation, that the founders were somehow involved in the creation or design of what we see now a sacred national custom. Nothing could be further from the truth. The whole situation roughly parallels the Ten Commandments: there it is, the 'writ of God' yet it has been so degraded and filtered through various social, political, and avarice-based motivations, what the masses believe is the word, is not. So too with the US cultural heritage; the Constitution is exactly what is written, the Bill of Rights is as written, the further amendments are as they are written. The Pledge should have stayed as originally written, but was filtered for political expediency based on the motivations of religious groups seeking a greater primacy over the lives of others. This move to impose a fractional will over the whole flies directly in the face of what is written down by those who created this nation. The modification of the Pledge stands not as an act of patriotism, but as an act of defilement to the precepts that formed this nation and an insult to those who wrote the Constitution... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __ Last edited by vienna; 07-08-15 at 12:37 PM.