It also depends on what mods you may be running. In TMO you can get detected very far away. Recently I was detected at 6500 by a DD on a moonless night in high seas. That's why I no longer use TMO. I love the mod butmy preferred ride is a S-Boat & while TMO may make for a challenge for the Gato jockeys it's nearly suicide for a S-Boat skipper.
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