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Konovalov · 04-05-06, 07:19 AM

It's interesting that you mention this because late last night on BBC I watched a program on this issue. Basically in the Congo there is a belief in witchcraft and in this is the idea of a person suffering from a thing called "kindoki". At least that is what I think it was called. This "kindoki" is kind of like a person being under the spell of evil spirits or of being a witch. Now the traditional way of dealing with this within their culture was by giving the person some simple tribal herbal medicines such as ground tree bark and so on. The problem began though when this was mixed with Evangelical Christianity according to the researcher and presenter of this BBC documentary, Sociologist Dr Richard Hoskins, of Kings College London who lectures in African and African-derived religions.

What evangelical christian pastors have done is to fuse the traditional cultural ideas of witchcraft with evangelical christianity and out of this has come this crazy process of treating a person with kindoki. The person with kindoki is starved for days up to a week at a time with no food or water, injuries are inflcited on them from kicks and punches up to what i saw was truly disgusting.

In the worst example a pastor would have all these children alleged to "have" kindoki and they would all be waiting lined up. One after one they were undressed almost naked. They would be layed flat on the ground. Then while not under any anesthetic and fully awake they would have incisions made with a razor blade into their lower tummies below the belly button. Then the pastor would stand on this part of the belly and also use his hands pushing with tremendous force on the belly of the child with the intention of forcing out the evil spirit. And as if by magic the pastor would reveal in his hand a bit of evil flesh that has come out of the belly of the child and so she has been cured according to the pastor of the kindoki.

The reason this story was aired on the BBC was because the practice exists and is being performed on children within London. Otherwise families are flying their children back to Congo to have this so-called treatment on their children performed. There was one case here in London where a child was killed as a result of this extreme exorcism. Some additional articles here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...025330,00.html
http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume...d=589_0_26_0_C
http://www.nospank.net/n-o68r.htm

04-05-06, 07:19 AM	#4
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	It's interesting that you mention this because late last night on BBC I watched a program on this issue. Basically in the Congo there is a belief in witchcraft and in this is the idea of a person suffering from a thing called "kindoki". At least that is what I think it was called. This "kindoki" is kind of like a person being under the spell of evil spirits or of being a witch. Now the traditional way of dealing with this within their culture was by giving the person some simple tribal herbal medicines such as ground tree bark and so on. The problem began though when this was mixed with Evangelical Christianity according to the researcher and presenter of this BBC documentary, Sociologist Dr Richard Hoskins, of Kings College London who lectures in African and African-derived religions. What evangelical christian pastors have done is to fuse the traditional cultural ideas of witchcraft with evangelical christianity and out of this has come this crazy process of treating a person with kindoki. The person with kindoki is starved for days up to a week at a time with no food or water, injuries are inflcited on them from kicks and punches up to what i saw was truly disgusting. In the worst example a pastor would have all these children alleged to "have" kindoki and they would all be waiting lined up. One after one they were undressed almost naked. They would be layed flat on the ground. Then while not under any anesthetic and fully awake they would have incisions made with a razor blade into their lower tummies below the belly button. Then the pastor would stand on this part of the belly and also use his hands pushing with tremendous force on the belly of the child with the intention of forcing out the evil spirit. And as if by magic the pastor would reveal in his hand a bit of evil flesh that has come out of the belly of the child and so she has been cured according to the pastor of the kindoki. The reason this story was aired on the BBC was because the practice exists and is being performed on children within London. Otherwise families are flying their children back to Congo to have this so-called treatment on their children performed. There was one case here in London where a child was killed as a result of this extreme exorcism. Some additional articles here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...025330,00.html http://www.newhumanist.org.uk/volume...d=589_0_26_0_C http://www.nospank.net/n-o68r.htm __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)