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Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER
Hi Guys
I would just like to chip in with what I find quite frustrating.
Why some ships count and others do not in the objective even though all are recorded in the Captains Log.
This can give a false impression that the tonnage bar is not working especially when in the designated patrol area.
My argument for what it is worth is if for example, if my patrol orders are to go to the South Western Approaches and I sink a ship with 2 torpedoes off the British East Coast on my way to the patrol area that tonnage does not count.
I am now 2 torpedoes less for my patrol area where those torpedoes may well have counted towards the objective.
I still need to carry out my patrol orders and complete my South Western Approaches objective as I need the Victory Point/s to go towards completing the Total Germany Campaign.
Peter
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There are a couple of things that may help with this problem. First would be to add a bit more info on the map intel. Like for instance, if the mission required you to specifically sink five tankers, "Tankers are first priority" or such could be added to refine slightly the actual mission objective. The player has no idea that he has to sink five tankers unless they delve into the config files etc. Therefore he uses up all his ammo sinking ships that don't add points and progress the tonnage bar.
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[Text]Campaign.tsr
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.FurtherInfo=British manufacturing is suffering. The tommies now have to gather war material from their allies. Tanks, planes, weapons and ammunition are brought by sea. With the fall of France and our change of bases to the Bay of Biscay, the British have shifted main convoy traffic to the North Western Approaches. Sinking as many of them as possible may just give us the edge.
Campaign.Title=HAPPY TIMES
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 1.Name=ATLANTIC AIR GAP
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.Name=STRATEGIC SUPPLIES
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.Name=WESTERN APPROACH
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 1.FurtherInfo=As an island nation, the British are highly dependent on imported goods taken by ship from the colonies to the mainland. Hunting and sinking the ships carrying war materials will hit them where it hurts the most. Of course the enemy knows this and the ships are heavily protected, often placed in the middle of convoys. U-boat operations in the Mid Atlantic will give us an opportunity to attack without the threat from coastal air cover.
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Description=Patrol the Western Approach area
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.FurtherInfo=The British war machine can't function properly without stocks of oil and iron ore. They desperately need these to replace materiel lost in France and keep their army moving. The Irish Sea is a key route for tankers taking refined oil from the South Coast to the major factories in the North of England. Any disruption to this supply will hamper manufacturing, throughout the North of England. ....ADD..."Tankers are first priority"
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.Description=Patrol the South Western Approach
Campaign.Description=Following the fall of France, Britain is alone. Now, the U-boats have gained direct access to the Atlantic. The French bases put us 450 miles closer to the vital shipping lines that we are aiming for. This opens up new and more profitable hunting grounds, farther than the British can afford to escort their convoys, and also allows us to stay longer times on patrol. We are entering a new phase of the War at Sea.
Campaign.CampObj.Name=
Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 1.PersObj 1.Description=Patrol the North Atlantic
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[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3]
ObjectiveID=HT_Strategic_Supplies
Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.Name
MapZone=Strategic_Supplies
ValuePointsProvided=2
FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.FurtherInfo
StartDate=19400601
EndDate=19410301
IsCompleted=false
IsFailed=false
IsUnlocked=true
AssocMissionsActive=
AssocMissionsCompleted=
ObjActivationAchievements=OBJ War Supplies
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1]
PersObjType=0
Name=Sink_5_oil_tankers
Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Description
RelatedMapLocations=Area_SS,Line_Great_Circle
IsCompleted=false
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 3.PersObj 1.Amount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=5
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Secondly...the target types, as listed in the config below are restricted to twelve types for this particular mission. I'm unsure as to whether certain units that have been imported into SH5 are not recognised as valid targets. It may be possible to get a list of
ALL unit "type" numbers and add them to the target list (as per the highlighted orange target list below) of every mission in the campaign. That way any ship sunk would register on the progress bar of the mission. The way the particular mission is below, there are only 12 valid target types. Anything not listed will not register as progress.
I haven't as yet spent a lot of time and delved into the real "guts" of this game so this is definitely a very uneducated idea....
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[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2]
ObjectiveID=TG_Norway_Invasion
Name=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.Name
MapZone=NorwayInvasion
ValuePointsProvided=3
FurtherInfo=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.FurtherInfo
StartDate=19400101
EndDate=19400411
IsCompleted=false
IsFailed=false
IsUnlocked=true
AssocMissionsActive=
AssocMissionsCompleted=
ObjActivationAchievements=
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1]
PersObjType=0
Name=Attack_ships_in_Narvik_waters
Description=Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.Description
RelatedMapLocations=Area_Narvik,Line_Norway_Invasi on2
IsCompleted=false
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.Amount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=5
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.CrtAmount]
IsTonnage=false
Tonnage=0
NumOfShips=0
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 1]
Type=102
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 2]
Type=108
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 3]
Type=103
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 4]
Type=101
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 5]
Type=4
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 6]
Type=11
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 7]
Type=7
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 8]
Type=6
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 9]
Type=8
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 10]
Type=9
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 11]
Type=3
TargetType=1
[Campaign.CampObj.MacroObj 2.PersObj 1.TargetType 12]
Type=10
TargetType=1
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