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Old 04-09-15, 09:02 AM   #7
Hinrich Schwab
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Originally Posted by banryu79 View Post
I have LWAMI (v 3.11) installed too.

Did you read that from the database directly? Because I can't (I haven't the editor for the database) but... In the "Platform Reference Guide for LWAMI 3.11", an xls file supplied with the mod, under the Russia section, it says that Typhoons are equipped with a TA and they do not carry the Shkval (only Oscars, Akulas, Victors, Alfas and Ladas could be equipped with Shkvals).

I'd like to clarify these points...
Yes, I read the Objects.eod database. The DWEdit tool comes with LWAMI. It is in he /LAMI_Mod/FileTools directory. I also stand corrected as I misread one of the database entries. They do have towed arrays. However, there are only three Typhoons; Dmitri Donskoy, Arkhangelsk and Severstal'

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EDIT: Also, in LWAMI 3.11 the range of the MAD detonator on Shkval is equal to 250 meters insted of the 500 meters in std DW. This, plus the fact that in LWAMI, AI submarines engages you much sooner than in std DW (because in std DW they first have to completly ID you where in LWAMI is no more the case) means that a an AI launched Shkval against you is "fatal" only if the AI platform firing it has a solid TMA solution on you.

I remeber that in a mission while on Russian (hostile, I was in a 688i) waters I was detected and sunk by a Victor that fired on me. He neeed to fire 3 torpedoes and only the 3rd striked (they all was SUBROC). But while watching the replay with Truth On I was surprised to discover that I was detected and fired upon by another Russian sub that was around the general location of the Victor and that I was obliviuos about (I'm not sure but IIRC he was an Akula). He fired something like 3 or 4 shkval, one at time, and he should have got a real bad solution on me because the Shkval all missed passing far from my position (about 1 or 2 nm on my sides).

But that was very scary witnessing this things running like hell across the map!
If they are well aimed you are already dead, like a Kenshiro victim, lol!
In LWAMI, any American sub going faster than 3 knots will be busted by Russian sensors. Also, firing at you without a good solution kind of makes sense, from an alternate line of thinking since the AI knows which units are their own. It is something like, "That contact shouldn't be there. Kill it."

I have been fortunate to never have a Shkval come after me. The only possible counter I can see in dealing with them is to remember that they are unguided and hope one is deep enough and the torpedo is far enough away that one can blow the ballast at flank speed and squeak by. It is nigh impossible to dodge a 200-knot torpedo. You would have to be at its max range to even try a course change to avoid it without a fast depth change. Its maximum range is 6NM and it needs the first mile to arm. It takes 20 seconds to reach arming distance and 1 minute, 40 seconds to make the 6NM run. That is a very small window to try and get out of the way.
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