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Old 03-23-15, 12:26 PM   #104
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Yes , Bush was definitely naïve selling democracy to bunch of nuts... putting aside his supposed motivations Iraq had an opportunity here after getting rid of of now so missed and loved Sadam Hussein.
Iran has great part in all the the mess as well...and now is pretending to be the reasonable side.

Bush made a big gambling mistake yet regarding the blaming war it is somewhat similar to Obamophobia and the usual political manipulation for masses from different perspective.
Besides that i always say...give some credit to the local people as well . People in the west have too high regard of themselves thinking they are guilty of everything.
It is almost? racist lol
I do ponder if Saddam was still in power whether the Arab Spring would have resulted in either an Iraqi civil war or his removal. Failing that, I ponder how Iraq would have reacted with Syria in the state that it's in. Would he have moved into Syria in an attempt to capitalise on the situation in the way that Iran is now.

I don't so much blame Bush for all of the aftermath of the war, but I do blame him for putting it in motion, and creating the power vacuum in Iraq by removing Saddam. The west and Saddam did not see eye to eye, this much is obvious (despite arming him against Iran) but there is a saying about the lesser of two evils.

And all this talk of 'regime change' that Bubbles and the politicians who speak his language are going on about just sounds ominously similar to the sort of language that we heard from Colin Powell and Dick Cheney in the build up to 2003.
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