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Old 02-19-15, 04:05 PM   #2527
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Not at all the same. You'll remember during the Bay of Pigs invasion that we aborted our support of the Cuban rebels at the last minute leaving them to be slaughtered on the beaches. I'm not saying that's better or worse, only different.

If you're talking about Guantanamo Bay, we took legal possession of it in 1903 under signed treaty. That's not at all the same as how Russia annexed the Crimea.

A closer match to your theory might be Panama but even then we never annexed the land but rather leased it and we did give the canal back to it's owners. Don't hold your breath for Russia doing the same...
But the US did spend the next decade or two doing its best to off Castro and overthrow the Cuban government through some very creative methods (including but not limited to the exploding cigar), furthermore, the Cuban rebels were supplied weapons and training by the US, but yes, admittedly they didn't get the full support that the Ukrainian rebels are receiving from Russia. Nevertheless though, the US saw a Soviet Cuba as a clear threat and took steps to undermine, isolate and deteriorate it. It didn't work out, just as Putins support of the Ukrainian separatists hasn't fully worked out in his favour, but Moscow saw the loss of Ukraine to NATO and/or the EU as a threat to Russia and acted because of this. If the reverse happened to NATO then I have no doubt that they would act in a similar manner, perhaps not quite as overt, but certainly there would be action taken.
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