[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Dowly

There's more, but lastly, if there are so many Russian units in Ukraine,
where are the bodies? Where are photos of them?
If they are fighting, surely there'd be some evidence of them being there?

But.. we got nothing, just words saying "RUSSIANS!"

you mean...proof.. like this?

As fighting continued to flare in the east particularly around Donetsk airport, an online organisation has catalogued more than 260 people reportedly killed in eastern Ukraine. The Open Russia organisation , started by the Kremlin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky, has also published a map showing where the dead are from.


The official denial of Russian military participation in Ukraine has pressured the relatives of those who served and died there to keep silent, and could deprive many of them of the benefits to which they are entitled. But some have started to speak out.


Yelena Tumanova, a hospital orderly from Russia’s Mari El republic, said her son Anton Tumanov told her by phone on 10 August that his army unit was being sent to Donetsk. On 20 August, a coffin came back to Mari El with a small window through which she could see his face. His legs had been torn off by an artillery strike, his comrades told her. He was 20 years old.

State-controlled television has occasionally reported on the deaths of Russian “volunteers” in Ukraine, but any discussion of servicemen being deployed there remains taboo. And despite a wealth of evidence that active-duty Russian soldiers have been in Ukraine – including 10 Russian paratroopers captured in Ukraine in August, Nato satellite photos showing tanks crossing the border, and a rash of secret funerals of soldiers across Russia – the Kremlin has denied that it has deployed troops to help the pro-Russia rebels.

The “volunteer” service Putin referred to is often anything but, according to several rights advocates. They say soldiers have told them that they were pressured to sign documents to go on a “business trip” to eastern Ukraine or “volunteer” in other ways. Tumanov told his mother that his commanders offered a 400,000-rouble bonus to sign up to fight in Ukraine, then simply ordered them forward when volunteers weren’t forthcoming. Some captured Russian paratroopers recounted that they had gone on a supposed training mission in armoured carriers and only later realised they were in Ukraine.

etc., etc.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...led-in-ukraine

the evidence is easy to find if you just bother to look for it.