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Old 01-20-15, 09:56 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens View Post
I never understood how she got away with that, it really seemed like a black and white case of aiding the enemy...
What enemy would that be? The one we went overseas to try to overthrow? It wasn't even a "war".

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet View Post
Clear cut, and dry case. she should still be in prison for it if you ask me.
Is it? How many "cut-and-dried" beliefs here are actually based on lies?

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk View Post
Huge mistake....zero apology.
"I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families."
-Jane Fonda, 1988 interview with Barbara Walters


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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat View Post
The issue was visiting North Vietnam in time of war
And yet while she was there she did indeed visit a group of POWs, bringing them letters from home and returning with letters to their families.

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Originally Posted by Platapus View Post
Did she use the words "I am sorry" and "I made a made a mistake/I was wrong"?

This sterile "it was a mistake" kinda distances her from what she said and what she did. This an issue about what SHE did and what SHE said. Not some intellectual impersonal mistake.

Those are the words I would like to hear.
"I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft carrier, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless."
-Jane Fonda, 2000


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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet View Post
I see Jane Fonda crewing an anti aircraft gun in participation with enemy combatants
I see her sitting in one of the gunners' chairs, looking through the sight, while chatting with reporters holding a microphone to her face. In another photograph she is laughing with those same reporters. What I don't see is her helping to shoot the gun.

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee View Post
Too late Jane!
Tell it to the air crew's that survived and the pilot's families who lost loved ones.

You'll always be Hanoi Jane.
She thought she was helping to stop the war. I think it is fairly plain that the United States was the aggressor, and that we should never have been there in the first place. Was she wrong to go there? Probably. This is one veteran who believes she was trying, however mistakenly, to point out the real villains in that conflict.

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Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
Most likely those who were never there.
To me that includes most of the people posting their hate in this thread.
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