@Skybird, and others:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skybird
Neal,
[...]Take the teachings of the Christ, and show me where he called for the violant submission of others, where he asked his followers for assassinating critics of his, where he taught the blind obedience to a cult or to himself, where he taught that the church should be founded and its representatives should be obeyed, show me where he taught that martyrdom in the killing of infidels is a virtue, and where he mocked his followers if they were not willing to sacrifice themselves, show me were he ordered for wears of attack and genocide of opposing tribes and different cults.[...]
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I guess you have never read the bible ? It is full of atrocities, everywhere.
And i have to laugh when people
fight over the opinion, which religion is the
more peaceful.
Only one of hundreds:
"
And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword. But Levi and Benjamin counted he not among them: for the king’s word was abominable to Joab. And God was displeased with this thing; therefore he smote Israel. And David said unto God, I have sinned greatly, because I have done this thing: but now, I beseech thee, do away the iniquity of thy servant; for I have done very foolishly . . .
So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men. (
I Chronicles 21:9-14)"
And if you say the Old testament should not be read, but only the new – why ? Because Martin Luther made a toned-down version of the original, most "christians" still believe in?
New testament, Matthew: Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament.
5:17
Oh yes, "The LORD is a man of war.
Exodus 15:3"
The list of atrocities in the bibel is longer than in the Quran.
The only reason that christians claim their god and Jesus is soo peaceful is obviously, that they never actually read the book.
Main difference is that neither the bible nor the Quran should be taken literally, anymore. And they aren't by most, and scientifiv theology.
The word is self-criticism.
Not that any western superpower has any more of it, than anyone in the middle east.
Most people who are angry need a reason for their destructive work, and some passages taken out of context, from the Quran or the bible (or damning any minority) always comes in handy as a justification for their dumbness. It does not have much to do with the real thing though.
Another difference is, that even priests cannot afford to send people to war anymore,
since this is an exclusive right of the governments and their media propaganda by now.
