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aIf its true what I read - that the police officer shot today was a Muslim female - then this most likely is a terror attack motivated by religion as well, for that woman deserved death for having put herself above the rule and role that Muhammad's teachings have forseen for females. Also, she would be seen as being guilty of cooperating with then enemy. Her duty would have been to stay at home, hidden from the world, and giving birth to new generations of future jihadist warrior.
Some weeks ago, I thin k I mentioned it in some thread somewhere, there was a report about German attempts to get closer to Muslim communities by having more Muslim migrants joining the police. The thing backfires all too often, however, especially in the big cities with huge Muslim communities. There Muslims policeman give feedback that they are hated even more by their likes than native German police officers, because as Muslims with migration background their communities all too often expect them to put their Muslim being above their loyalty to the law and the state (something that Islam absolutely demands: that the loyalty to Islam ranks higher than laws and state membership and nationalities). Many of these migrant police officer live in fear for their own spouses, because they get threatened as well, and in their work on the street when being confronted by Muslim crowds the take even more fire and anger, than native German police officers.
So much for politician's claims that having more Muslim police officers would contribute to the mediating effort towards 'Muslims.
Needless to say: no other religious group and no other migrant group gets this special consideration.
Somebody above again mentions not all Muslims are terrorists. How often again this dud of an argument? I insist on declaring Islam a totalitarian, barbaric, hostile ideology, and if somebody doe snot follow it to the letter, then he is not really a follower of it. Or he only pays lip-confessions when saying he is loyal to Western standards and the secular fundament of our society, which also is a very popular hobby in Muslim communities (taqquiya and all that). The real Muslim is who follows the teachings of Muhammad, and these are such that they leave nothing to be desired to point out their draconic content and intention. Like the real Christian is not necessarily the one attending a church mass on December 24th, but the one who indeed follows the teachings of Christ as told in the New Gospels. And as I already told before: the Germans for the most did not intend or committed themselves to killing Jews with their own individual hands, nevertheless it were the Germans who had this thing called Nazism and Third Reich, and there is no excuse to say that the disaster unfolding were not one of German responsibility. Not every German killed a Jew. Still, the holocaust happened, and it was Germany.
It often makes little sense if some Muslim says he were Muslim if he does not follow basic, elementary principles that define Islam to actually be "Islam". He is an apostate then who does not want to confess his apostacy, or is not aware of it (because full understanding of the full range of Islam is far less spread amongst Muslims than you may take for granted). However: the "apostate" talking ncie of Islam nevertheless paves the way for Islam itself by helping to give it a better reputation, and by that he eases the oath for the real Musalims - that are the ones that Westerners suually think os Islamists and radicals (as if there could have been a difference between Nazis and "Nazissis"). The Western self-deceptions know no limits here, it seems, everything gets desperately believed if it promises an option to think nicer of Islam in an attempt to maintain the illusion that Islam is not at war with all other cultures in the world. But it is, and always has been. A long chain of crushed cultures and submitted kingdoms and empires that it destroyed in the past 13 centuries, speak volumes. The drastic persecution and mass killings of infidels in many M;uslim countries gives further evidence for the relevance of these ideological implications and their motivational effects. Or one asks Muslim clerics and lobbyists about whether Islam is good or bad - what does one expect a Muslim cleric will say, eh? Do you expect an objective answer when asking the Vatikan about the disputable role of a corrupt church in the centuries of the past?
You cannot ignore the ideology and claim that what remains still is Islam. It is something different. Call it anything, but not Islam.
And btw, I said that on earlier occasions, too, it makes no sense if yo meet a man claiming to be a Nazi, and you see him supporting multiculturalism and helping Jews, engaging himself for libertarianism and humanism and defending the right of free speech and speaking out against censorship. Such man may insist on being seen as a Nazi. Nevertheless, he is somebody with an intellectual problem, and a Nazi he certainly is not, no matter his desire to be seen as one. But if you take his misled claim about himself for the truth, when you take his example in deeds as being representative for Nazism because he claims he is a Nazi, then you have a big problem: you legitimise Nazism on the ground of totally wrong and inappropriate assumptions about what Nazism is and wants: you then start to defend Nazism, thinking it were about free speech, multiculturalism, humanism and libertarianism. Now tell me - how clever is that...???
Stop being disgusted by criticism and critics of Islam - you better should start to be disgusted by Islam.
Stop being worried about the self-victimization of Muslims - better be worried about the fate of tens and hundreds of thousands and millions of non-Muslims every year who get persecuted, killed, moved, deported, driven away by Muslim wars of aggression, harassed, discriminated, disadvantaged by Muslim law, and who are withheld from freedom of speech, freedom of practicng religion, freedom to live their lives in liberty, as they want it. There are many infidelks and Muslims alike who flee from the Muslim world into the infidel West. But how many atheists and Christians flee from the West into the Muslim world...?
Stop being foolish, and submissive.
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Last edited by Skybird; 01-08-15 at 11:40 AM.
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