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Originally Posted by Ducimus
In other words, historically speaking christianty (and its many offsets) is no better then islam.
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Not true. Historically, Muslims factions have waged more wars amongst themsleves, and have waged more wars against people of different faiths, then Christian factions. And while the church acted with quite some cruelty towards heretics and threats to it's power and politcial ambitions during the dark age, Muslim porthodoxy did the same, but was more successful in it's attempt to wipe out different views on Allah, Quran, religion in general, legislative in special. What you say is the mainstream today: to give the wrong impression that Chrstian West has no reason or right not to see anything different (Islam in this case) as of equal value to itself. Chrstianity has had it'S violant chpaters, for sure. But Islam has had significantly more of that. and part of the Chrstian violance was caused by the previous ongoing attcks of Islam against Chrstianity. The first attacked the latter, not the other way around.
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The major difference between the two, is one has advanced along enough to abandon its violent means, and the other has not.
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By tendency that is right. However, I want to point out that statistically the Western "democracies" of the past 110 years have caused as much bloodshed and loss of life than all tyrannies and dicatorships and both world wars together during that timeframe. The latter do the killing themselves. The first let the killing happen for the sake of their own interests. "Die Staaten sind die kältesten aller Ungeheur." And that is true for ALL states.