Thread: Good bye Europe
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Old 03-29-06, 02:55 AM   #10
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Who said anything was perfect? Find me a place that is :hmm:

Otherwise, my problem is precisely that - it blames socialists and muslims for the whole mess, when the picture is more complex than that. I don't think calling socialism a "perversion" and European muslims "Islamist vipers" is accomplishing anything. If you want to make a point, don't make the apparently-influential socialists and muslims seem like lunch meat. If you're going to change anything, you're either gonna have to kill them, or work with them, and I don't think the former is a very workable option.

Let's face it, the muslims are here, and if you plan to kick them out - well good luck trying to save face in the world as a democracy after that. Like it or not, in Europe or elsewhere, you're going to be dealing with muslims. You're not going to make hundreds of millions of people magically disappear or magically love you for hating what they consider "their way" (and I agree - it's fundamentally dangerous). And the more you alienate them, the more pissed they will get at you. Even a hard-line approach against radical muslims will not prevent you from having to deal with them in a civil manner at some point - even if that dealing will be an effort to "modernize" them. And if you acknowledge that dealing with them in a non-civil manner should be a matter of policy - well, who's the "perverted vipers" here?

That said, and I say it for the third time already - the article makes good points. Multicultural policies aren't working and need to be adjusted to some degree. The fear of offending muslims runs far too high as well. There are alternatives. But they shouldn't include alienating anyone and making them more pissed at you for no reason other than wanting to irritate them (and, consequently, make your arguments ineffective).
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