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Skybird · 09-05-14, 05:09 AM

ikalugin, what about Russian Armed Forces operating their vehicles and wearing their uniforms with camouflaged national Russian emblems?

To hide the national Russian ownership and army membership, is part of this way of warfare. To prevent identification and thus prevent being held responsible..

There were the British buccaneers once who officially were marauders and pirates of the sea, but in reality aided the Spanish fleet with official order by her British majesty. Formally, England had nothing to do with these raids. Practically it waged war against Spain.

And what about Russian tanks and heavy weapons provided by the regular Russian forces to separatist whom were also trained ny Russian specialists...

I do not mind whether Russian army units with unhidden insignias are standing in the Ukraine or not, or have their national emblems hidden or painted over, or have handed their equipment to Ukrainian Russians and separatists. Practically Russia is at war with the Ukraine, and all this lipstick and mascara only is for trying to spread doubt and preventing unity in the West.

I also remind of statements by captured as well as unsuspecting Russian soldiers - giving me personally the impression of not realising the dimension of what they were saying, they usually were extremely young - that confirmed that Russian soldiers are fighting in the Ukraine. And please do not tell me Putin version of it, that they all are doung it in their holidays and had gotten vacancy leave from the Russian army.

Me maybe will never see Russian emblems on uniforms and vehicles operating in the Donbass and around Luhansk. Well, terrorists in the ME often also do not wear uniforms, they also wave no hands and shout "I am the terrorist, shoot me!" . They even intentionally melt into the background of the civilians around them.

I have a lot of understanding for the Russian motivation, that is not to excuse all and everything, but I think I can differ between the world as I would like to have it, and the world as it really is, and I understand how it came this far and why Putin does what he does, by internal as well as external reasons. I am realist. But don't take from my understanding for Russia that I am naive.

09-05-14, 05:09 AM	#1473
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,740 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	ikalugin, what about Russian Armed Forces operating their vehicles and wearing their uniforms with camouflaged national Russian emblems? To hide the national Russian ownership and army membership, is part of this way of warfare. To prevent identification and thus prevent being held responsible.. There were the British buccaneers once who officially were marauders and pirates of the sea, but in reality aided the Spanish fleet with official order by her British majesty. Formally, England had nothing to do with these raids. Practically it waged war against Spain. And what about Russian tanks and heavy weapons provided by the regular Russian forces to separatist whom were also trained ny Russian specialists... I do not mind whether Russian army units with unhidden insignias are standing in the Ukraine or not, or have their national emblems hidden or painted over, or have handed their equipment to Ukrainian Russians and separatists. Practically Russia is at war with the Ukraine, and all this lipstick and mascara only is for trying to spread doubt and preventing unity in the West. I also remind of statements by captured as well as unsuspecting Russian soldiers - giving me personally the impression of not realising the dimension of what they were saying, they usually were extremely young - that confirmed that Russian soldiers are fighting in the Ukraine. And please do not tell me Putin version of it, that they all are doung it in their holidays and had gotten vacancy leave from the Russian army. Me maybe will never see Russian emblems on uniforms and vehicles operating in the Donbass and around Luhansk. Well, terrorists in the ME often also do not wear uniforms, they also wave no hands and shout "I am the terrorist, shoot me!" . They even intentionally melt into the background of the civilians around them. I have a lot of understanding for the Russian motivation, that is not to excuse all and everything, but I think I can differ between the world as I would like to have it, and the world as it really is, and I understand how it came this far and why Putin does what he does, by internal as well as external reasons. I am realist. But don't take from my understanding for Russia that I am naive. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.