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Originally Posted by HunterICX
Well first step would be Parenting.
If I crossed the red line set by my parents I would be put on my place either verbally or a slap on the wrist.
nowadays the Parents treat their kids like the where the messiah and that they can do no wrong.
Example: I've seen at my school in the Netherlands a parent take his kid to the principal office to complain to the school about that his son has been suspended.
If I would be suspended of school...oh boy..grounded, privileges suspended and would have to make a formal apology to the school teacher or principal.
Also a part has to do with society especially when times are hard and both parents have to work hard to get around so that they have little time to spend with their kids. When I grew up my parents made sure one of them would be at home to pick us up, I know that now with the EU crisis it's become a luxury to be raised like that and you'll probably spend more time on your own then around you parents and I wager this is where in most cases it goes wrong as they have no boundaries and have a free pass to do pretty much what they want.
Trouble starts young.
So it's important for a parent to pay good attention to their kids and hopefully show them the right way.
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I think that's fifty/fifty really, I mean you can raise a kid to be an absolute angel, but as soon as he/she gets outside of your house and control then there's nothing you can do but try to pick up the pieces when they return, it's the old nature vs nurture thing.
It's also a bit of a catch-22 situation, some parents are afraid to discipline their children out of fear of catching the ire of social services, it's even worse if you happen to be fostering a child and they decide to lie and tell social services that you've been abusing them. It's a bit like that South Park episode 'The Wacky Molestation Adventure', and once you've got that black mark on your record it's a hell of a fight to get rid of it. However, equally there is no doubt that there are plenty of parents (both foster and non-foster) out there that DO abuse their children, and as such the system has been increasingly tightened so that the state has become a bit twitchy when it comes to the disciplining of children.
Now, when you couple that on to the general attitude of society now that authority figures are to be questioned, not obeyed, then it's small wonder that things are the way they are. Not that I'm excusing the behaviour of some parents or their children, I fully understand the references you make in that there are definitely some parents out there (usually on
the Jeremy Kyle show) who struggle to control themselves, let alone their children, and I make no economic background discrimination here, I have seen the children of the rich and the poor and it's got nothing to do with their background as to how the child behaves (in fact, some rich peoples kids are worse than kids from a council estate
) but as always when the media spotlight falls upon the behaviour of children it will fall upon those from poor families on council estates, because there is nothing like a good bit of
to make you feel better about yourself (I may be poor, but at least I'm not as bad as those losers). After all, as I mentioned earlier, during the 2011 riots one of the many people arrested after the incident was a millionaires daughter who was at university.
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Originally Posted by Catfish
From this to the media loving to report "bad" things - only bad news are good news.
This becomes especially interesting when you look at a certain Joseph Pulitzer and William Randolph Hearst, and the wars they caused, and financed.
If i did something so they gave me the Pulitzer prize, i would throw it in their face.
Apart from that, someone from the US recently told me there has been no racism in the US since the 1950ies. I did not object, but sometimes i wonder about human perception.
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Whoops...ok, you got me there.
Prizes from bloodied hands aren't a new thing after all, the medallion that Obama wears around his neck was created by the guy who gave us TNT after all.
I do think that there is a problem in the US police system, if it's not racism then perhaps it's a slight twitchiness, but equally in a country where every person you meet might have the means to murder you from beyond hand reach distance then I suppose short of patrolling in and using bomb disposal robots to make arrests then you are going to be twitchy because every situation might be your last.
Drawing back from the 2nd Amendment for a moment though (since I have no wish to sail off that well travelled waterfall) there definitely does seem to be something causing a great disconnect between the US people and the police, and that disconnect grows bigger every year, from the Kent State massacre (ok, that was National Guard, not police), through to Rodney King, and now Michael Brown, and the fact that the police are closing ranks is not doing much to defuse the situation.
I'm following social media on this, I find in situations like this it's probably one of the better ways of getting raw information, and there's a strange irony in the alleged report that people from Gaza are tweeting to the people of Ferguson advice on how to cope with tear gas.
There's a livestream going on here:
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9...events/3271930
(which goes to show how it's not easy to hide things in the modern interconnected media world, but that's another discussion entirely).
Furthermore, two reporters, one from the Huffington Post and the other from the Washington Post where arrested, detained (roughly) and then released with no knowledge of what they were arrested for.
I can't help but think that the St. Louis PD is making things worse for themselves.
EDIT: Just found this, twitter users from Gaza tweeting advice to protestors in Ferguson on how to deal with tear gas:
EDIT EDIT: Reddit are, once again, doing a sterling job of collating information from multiple sources in once place, this really is the era of the open source news station:
http://www.reddit.com/live/tdrph3y49ftn/