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Skybird · 08-09-14, 01:33 PM

It does back to 2003, mapuc. After they had defeated the Iraqi army, they showed that they had no real plan for governing it. Paul Bremer then decided it would be a clever idea to dismantle the Iraqi army, security forces and intelligence services, sending all of a sudden tens of thousands of armed former employees (soldiers and generals) into joblessness with their income gone, their competence and experience ignored, and their privileges taken away. No good idea, since the ruling elites were of the ruling Sunni minority.

Then came Maliki who did nothing to bridsge gaps between ethnciities, but helped to wioden then. Sunni and Kurds are masisvely discmrinated, the detah squads last time I heard of them (maybe one year ago) terrorized the people worse than they ever did under Hussein and especially target Sunni and Kurds, and corruption and nepotism under Maliki has become policy of the day.

It seems the Sunni have had enough of post war Iraq and Maliki. They radicalised, started to love jihad, collected experience in Syria, and then formed ISIS and discovered their love to not just take Iraq, but the whole ME.

Yes, Wetsern /American policies have plentya to do with ISIS existing today. The Amerians did not intentionally form ISIS like once the Pakistani founded the Taliban, but still, they share the lions share of responsibility.

It was stupid to invade Iraq, the claims why it was done were lies, and starting all that mess without a plan for the time after the Iraqi army had surrendered was irresponsibly. But the revolts then emerging, the ethnic tensions growing, and the role of religious radicalization - all that was forseeable and predictable, and as a matter of fact it was forseen and warned of by some people.

Its just that these irresponsible, self-glorifying retards in Washington decided to not listen to everybody telling them what they did not want to hear.

They should have done like they did with the ruins of the Third Reich: making use of the remains of the German police and administration in the cities and regions, instead of destroying these last remains of administration as well and leave all Germany open to anarchy.

Nothing what has happened in Iraq since then, and ISIS as well - nothing of all that comes as a surprise to me. And I talked like that already ten years ago.

08-09-14, 01:33 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,708 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It does back to 2003, mapuc. After they had defeated the Iraqi army, they showed that they had no real plan for governing it. Paul Bremer then decided it would be a clever idea to dismantle the Iraqi army, security forces and intelligence services, sending all of a sudden tens of thousands of armed former employees (soldiers and generals) into joblessness with their income gone, their competence and experience ignored, and their privileges taken away. No good idea, since the ruling elites were of the ruling Sunni minority. Then came Maliki who did nothing to bridsge gaps between ethnciities, but helped to wioden then. Sunni and Kurds are masisvely discmrinated, the detah squads last time I heard of them (maybe one year ago) terrorized the people worse than they ever did under Hussein and especially target Sunni and Kurds, and corruption and nepotism under Maliki has become policy of the day. It seems the Sunni have had enough of post war Iraq and Maliki. They radicalised, started to love jihad, collected experience in Syria, and then formed ISIS and discovered their love to not just take Iraq, but the whole ME. Yes, Wetsern /American policies have plentya to do with ISIS existing today. The Amerians did not intentionally form ISIS like once the Pakistani founded the Taliban, but still, they share the lions share of responsibility. It was stupid to invade Iraq, the claims why it was done were lies, and starting all that mess without a plan for the time after the Iraqi army had surrendered was irresponsibly. But the revolts then emerging, the ethnic tensions growing, and the role of religious radicalization - all that was forseeable and predictable, and as a matter of fact it was forseen and warned of by some people. Its just that these irresponsible, self-glorifying retards in Washington decided to not listen to everybody telling them what they did not want to hear. They should have done like they did with the ruins of the Third Reich: making use of the remains of the German police and administration in the cities and regions, instead of destroying these last remains of administration as well and leave all Germany open to anarchy. Nothing what has happened in Iraq since then, and ISIS as well - nothing of all that comes as a surprise to me. And I talked like that already ten years ago. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.