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Catfish · 08-06-14, 01:06 PM

"It is always difficult to judge political decisions, when their attainability lies far in the future. This is why i think that any nation may never be judged by its goals and values it boasts about, but by the means it uses for its implementation."
Werner Heisenberg (1901 – 1976)

Doesn't this say all that needs to be said ?
Loss of credibility, from drones and cynically-called "collateral damage", to eavesdropping own and foreign common people (and even the own senate), to torture.
What "freedom" are we talking about ? Not that our own government does not the same things, or at least tries to. Vassals indeed.
What is happening now has been the wet dream of Gestapo and Stasi. They were amateurs, in comparison.

It seems the new USA are much more anti-americanistic themselves, than their worst critics in Europe, when it comes to comparing their founding principles with what is common practice now. Seriously, what happened to the anglo-saxon world after WW2, that it became what it is ?
Thousands of cameras in London, visiting Orwell's house makes you a suspect - what the hell is going on there

Is 9/11 the cause ? This event serves as a justification for anything that used to be criminal before, under normal conditions.

08-06-14, 01:06 PM	#10
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	"It is always difficult to judge political decisions, when their attainability lies far in the future. This is why i think that any nation may never be judged by its goals and values it boasts about, but by the means it uses for its implementation." Werner Heisenberg (1901 – 1976) Doesn't this say all that needs to be said ? Loss of credibility, from drones and cynically-called "collateral damage", to eavesdropping own and foreign common people (and even the own senate), to torture. What "freedom" are we talking about ? Not that our own government does not the same things, or at least tries to. Vassals indeed. What is happening now has been the wet dream of Gestapo and Stasi. They were amateurs, in comparison. It seems the new USA are much more anti-americanistic themselves, than their worst critics in Europe, when it comes to comparing their founding principles with what is common practice now. Seriously, what happened to the anglo-saxon world after WW2, that it became what it is ? Thousands of cameras in London, visiting Orwell's house makes you a suspect - what the hell is going on there Is 9/11 the cause ? This event serves as a justification for anything that used to be criminal before, under normal conditions.