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Originally Posted by Tribesman
We did some things that were contrary to our values.
Now not wanting to go through the whole debate with people who think torture is acceptable and the useless information it gained was worth the indelible stain it has left on the US.
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Then why did you even bother confronting others and bother them with your opinion about torture?
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This is to explore the "special relationship".
Will the senate agree to Britains request to censor the parts which deal with Britains role in this fiaso?
It is important to Britain as it looks like they will face massive payouts through the British courts if their role in gross violations of human rights(war crimes)is confirmed by their allies.
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If a government uses torture as a means to obtain information. Then according to your way of thinking it must therefore be justifiable. As your own words on another topic leads me to believe you contend no one should argue with what the governement says.
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Rockstar: Let it be known to one and all here Israel does have my full support in their mission.
Tribesman: So when your government says some Israeli actions are indefensible and unjustifiable you are willing to try and justify and defend those actions. 
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