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Jaystew · 06-30-14, 09:33 PM

I don't think War is a Racket as summarized by wiki is realistic at all. War always escalates beyond "the rules" and there are countless examples from history to cite.

9/11 WTC

Syria

Atom bombing of Japan

Fire bombing between the European nations in WW2

Dec 7th 41

Maginot line debacle

If Germany had defeated the UK along with France and Poland and all the other in between nations I have serious doubts about the USA getting involved. WW1 was little different and really the USA got into it only because Germany became belligerent towards American interests, unrestricted warfare on shipping and the Zimmerman telegram where they tried to sell Mexico on the idea of re-taking Texas LOL

-Dont mess with Texas

Anyway in WW2 if Hitler had taken all of Europe but had not yet attacked the Soviet Union, a defeat of the UK which could have possibly happened in 1940-early 41, the USA would have had little interest into wading into Germany. Sure they were interested in selling war material and ships to Britain in exchange for islands and bases. But actual direct combat not until after December 7th.

The whole attitude of the country changed towards the war, a lot of civilians supported a war with Japan so much so civil right of Japanese Americans were compromised but not German Americans. If the UK was out of the war and Germany had worked on a neutrality pact with the USA very likely the USA would have taken such a deal with the devil.

They've done it after with Iran and Iraq when it met their national interest. Though FDR was no fan of Hitler and Hitler thought that the USA was all about capitalism and that they could strike a deal which would be "economically good" and that would keep the USA out of the war, he was probably right about that until December 7th. Sure the USA may have come in overtime if Germany had sunk a few more American merchants but what if Germany had abided strongly by international law and not attacked American merchants?

What legitimate reason would the USA have had for counter-attacking Germany until they were officially in the war?

06-30-14, 09:33 PM	#29
Jaystew Sparky Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 151 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I don't think War is a Racket as summarized by wiki is realistic at all. War always escalates beyond "the rules" and there are countless examples from history to cite. 9/11 WTC Syria Atom bombing of Japan Fire bombing between the European nations in WW2 Dec 7th 41 Maginot line debacle If Germany had defeated the UK along with France and Poland and all the other in between nations I have serious doubts about the USA getting involved. WW1 was little different and really the USA got into it only because Germany became belligerent towards American interests, unrestricted warfare on shipping and the Zimmerman telegram where they tried to sell Mexico on the idea of re-taking Texas LOL -Dont mess with Texas Anyway in WW2 if Hitler had taken all of Europe but had not yet attacked the Soviet Union, a defeat of the UK which could have possibly happened in 1940-early 41, the USA would have had little interest into wading into Germany. Sure they were interested in selling war material and ships to Britain in exchange for islands and bases. But actual direct combat not until after December 7th. The whole attitude of the country changed towards the war, a lot of civilians supported a war with Japan so much so civil right of Japanese Americans were compromised but not German Americans. If the UK was out of the war and Germany had worked on a neutrality pact with the USA very likely the USA would have taken such a deal with the devil. They've done it after with Iran and Iraq when it met their national interest. Though FDR was no fan of Hitler and Hitler thought that the USA was all about capitalism and that they could strike a deal which would be "economically good" and that would keep the USA out of the war, he was probably right about that until December 7th. Sure the USA may have come in overtime if Germany had sunk a few more American merchants but what if Germany had abided strongly by international law and not attacked American merchants? What legitimate reason would the USA have had for counter-attacking Germany until they were officially in the war?