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Originally Posted by CCIP
True, but to be fair, it's pretty widely agreed that both Japan and Germany's war aims were generally pretty reprehensible and incompatible with human rights and international law. And I'm not talking about the war conduct, just aims.
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It's widely agreed on because of hindsight, obviously the axis powers wheren't striving for human rights and international law and it would've been a different world today if they had gotten their way.
Human rights and International law matters little when the side defending those doesn't win.
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Originally Posted by CCIP
Whether they personally agreed with them or not, people like Yamamoto were complicit in them at a very high level.
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Totally agreed with you there.
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Originally Posted by CCIP
I don't think they should be painted as some sort of monsters, but they're no victims of victors' justice - if you make your bed, if you choose national interest and war aims over international law, well, you have to lie in it. Again, Yamamoto was an extremely intelligent man and I think he knew that very well himself.
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It would've been a good bed for him to lie in if his nation did obtain total victory.
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Originally Posted by Oberon
There have been many others just as evil and rephrensible as the Nazis and Imperial Japan, the difference is the technology they wielded.
Their goals of expansion and conquest at the expense of others, are not so dissimilar to many empires before them and some after.
Not condoning, just taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture of human history.
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We've had some dark times and I'm sure more lie ahead.
Only reason we call ourselves civilized is that we no longer throw our feces on the street...but even that isn't true in a manner of speaking.