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Old 05-09-14, 11:46 AM   #1036
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Originally Posted by Dmitry Markov View Post
Hi everyone - thanks for kind words!
I've noticed another problem concerning mass media and public opinion: and that's simply a language barrier.
Concerning my point of view on this conflict, You must admit one thing - I don't watch TV - neither Russian, nor Western. My AV system is not even connected to antenna or SAT.
Most info I get on the situation comes from Internet or from direct speaking with different people.
And here I've got an advantage - I am bilingual ( three lingual counting French although I don't speak but only read, and a bit of German, Japanese and so on.., ah! And don't forget about Ukrainian - every Russian can understand Ukrainian if not talk)
so I can get info everywhere, while most Western people get info only in English or in their local languages and most Russians get info only in Russian.
A tremendous volume of info in Russian which is rarely translated just passes away from view of Western public.
I suppose You don't trust RT that much as it's a government channel, but unfortunately you can't read blogs, twits, hear Zello channels and so on. There are plenty of them actually.
For example - BBC concerning maidan in February showed only Maidan hitmen being fired at by unseen sniper. But it never showed another videos with unarmed Berkut officers who were shot and burned with bottles of napalm by radicals a night before. This kind of videos is being removed from YouTube or being given 18+ ratio very quickly.
What you don't see also are Ustream channels. For example the ones from Odessa where Right Sector hitmen kill people who are trying to escape from burning House of Trade Unions, where happy hitmen search and count burnt and head-shot bodies with replicas like "Look haha there's Romeo and Juliet" at the sight of a guy and a girl who died in arms of each other. So-called interim government fully supports that all telling that those people burned themselves and the only guilty persons are Police officials.
Strange "European choice"...
BBC talking about war in South-East speaks only of junta's forces casualties and never tells about kids being accidentally shot, about junta's APC opening fire at a group of locals who were unarmed and trying to keep military forces out of their town. About a young woman who went out to her balcony to see for her husband coming home and was head-shot by junta sniper.
Not to talk about junta's decision to deploy artillery and multiple-rocket launchers against cities without evacuating civilians ( in Russian this word translated as " peaceful inhabitants" ).
This move is most dangerous for everyone.
You see, we here read the blogs from South-East, here their voices on Zello as they repel junta's forces assaults and feel ourselves ashamed and inept to help people who call themselves Russians (even being Ukrainians) and who ask for our help calling us in Russia "well-fed hamsters". That's on the one hand.
On the other - if artillery and multiple launch systems would be used - our country would have to react because if it won't react than we are true are well-fed hamsters who care only for their well-fed live.
By the words "react" I mean not necessarily an intervention. It could be point cruise missile strikes in style we've eliminated Dudaev. Or it could be night attack helos Mi-28 strike on junta's armoured vehicles groups. But that would give junta's another aces in hand for their propaganda and I imagine what would be shown in Western media assuming they won't show junta's artillery firing at Slavyansk.
And in case of intervention we can face partisan actions because although South-East is for most part Russian - it's not totally Russian like Crimea.
Another long-lasting hot conflict is not the thing I personally dream about taking into account ten years of Chechnya and knowing how much work and time it took for NKVD to get reed of UPA in 40's - 50's ( and those actions were taking place only in woods on a small territory of westernmost parts of Ukrainian Soviet Republic). At least that would mean my own hamster's life will become less well-fed.
So the last VVP's words of moving the troops from the border and ask to postpone the vote in South-East while being concidered by South-Eastern people as betrayal, are in fact partly to give junta a chance not to overescalate the situation. Of course first artillery barrage would give him an argument like : " You see, We've told them..."

Actually, I don't see an exit from this situation - junta is not interested in loosing most important industrial region, locals have lost interest to project "Ukraine"
and won't talk with junta, West supporting junta and trying to save the face after Odessa, Us trying to save the face after talking of non-supporting people whom we have to support...

Let's study foreign languages
Thank you Dmitry for your input ... this is an international forum message board and it is refreshing to have something besides CNN, NBC, CBS, Fox and ABC for a view.

I for one surf with a TV on a 40" LCD hdmi one (1) hooked to a AV with four hdmi plug-ins and the PC hooked up to the same LCD TV plugged into hdmi two (2) meaning that I have the sound for any channel without the view and surf the net at the same time, understand?

Now here's what you get to hear about in the USA in between the commercials that is, MH370 search patterns, Donald Stearlings racist comments about the NBA black players talking to his occasional girlfriend about what she can do or what she can't do and of course the news about bad weather in the mid-west and the east coast and the drought in California with news about what President Obama thinks about anything he thinks repeated every other hour and maybe once every two hours a brief summary about what pro-Russian supposedly civilian forces are doing in the Ukraine.

That's about it ... if we want news about the Russian/Ukraine problems we have to zone in like a search radar on the news from Bing, Google or Yahoo or a friendly message board like subsim.

I don't know what the people on the street think due to my rural area, but that's okay with me leaves more time for fishing and picture taking with this beautiful spring weather.

Thanks again for your input
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