SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - View Single Post - U.S. search warrant can acquire foreign cloud, email data

Skybird · 04-29-14, 06:14 AM

http://www.zdnet.com/u-s-search-warr...es-7000028828/

In principle the US claims the right to submit all the world to US law, and US law shall overrule international law. There can be no seriously meant doubt that it has not been US government services pressing for this rule by the court.

But at the same time Washington claims to defend the sovereignity of other nations. Which is a hilarious, ridiculous lie. What Washington wants is obedient vasalls that do what one tells them.

Before Europeans now mock: the EU wants this kind of total control and surveillance in Europe and beyond as well.

Maybe we need indeed a Butler's jihad, like imagined by Frank Herbert. Our modern hightech possibilities more and more are turned against the people and transformed into tools of surveillance, control and manipulation. This is no civilizational progress, but oppression and tyranny.

Especially impertinent is the formal reason for this court verdict: that formally interacting with foreign authorities would cause American law authorities a rise in workload, and thus it would be better to ignore international laws to save that step. Ehem - hello...? Somebody still sane and alive?

In the end, this will also backfire financially against US IT companies, who already are distrusted due to the datakrakening of US intel services and US legislation. Everybody still storing private or sensible data in the cloud, must have lost his marbles.

04-29-14, 06:14 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,624 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	U.S. search warrant can acquire foreign cloud, email data http://www.zdnet.com/u-s-search-warr...es-7000028828/ In principle the US claims the right to submit all the world to US law, and US law shall overrule international law. There can be no seriously meant doubt that it has not been US government services pressing for this rule by the court. But at the same time Washington claims to defend the sovereignity of other nations. Which is a hilarious, ridiculous lie. What Washington wants is obedient vasalls that do what one tells them. Before Europeans now mock: the EU wants this kind of total control and surveillance in Europe and beyond as well. Maybe we need indeed a Butler's jihad, like imagined by Frank Herbert. Our modern hightech possibilities more and more are turned against the people and transformed into tools of surveillance, control and manipulation. This is no civilizational progress, but oppression and tyranny. Especially impertinent is the formal reason for this court verdict: that formally interacting with foreign authorities would cause American law authorities a rise in workload, and thus it would be better to ignore international laws to save that step. Ehem - hello...? Somebody still sane and alive? In the end, this will also backfire financially against US IT companies, who already are distrusted due to the datakrakening of US intel services and US legislation. Everybody still storing private or sensible data in the cloud, must have lost his marbles. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.