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Skybird · 04-09-14, 08:33 PM

Stop contradicting yourself, mapuc.

A Muslim not being fanatic could be argued to not be a real Muslim, since Muslim ideology educates people to be fanatics, and favours totalitarianism, suppression and discrimination. Where they are not, the education has failed, and they are not not fanatical because of Islam's teachings, but despite Islam's teachings.

Muhammad did not want to send a choire of kids singing chants to pacify the world, he wanted obedient tribes paying protective money, and wanted warriors to wage war in order to spread his sphere of influence.

The ideology reflects that. It'S a warrior's excuse to conquer the world and enforce his will on all others.

For German readers:

http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...l?config=print

Some years ago, I already mentioned this man in some thread. I once met him, we had some minutes of brief but intense talking. Back then he still appeared a bit naive to me, and too dreamfully wishing for illusions. Meanwhile, he has written more books, and the events of the socalled Arab Spring seem to have left him impressed (at least that is my assumption), for he now voices far more determined criticism and less wishfull hopes, and uses far more plain and straight wordings.

Needless to say that he makes himself no friends by that, but is threatened with murder and lives under 24/7 protection.

Good man.

The socialists have thrown him out of the Islam conference that the government holds with radical Islamic organisations, they have also refused several insiders and academically educated experts of Muslim descent because they criticise Islam and the conference - and that they do because of the infantile naivety of the politicians, and because the conference simply has skipped the problem of exploding Muslim radicalisation in Germany from it's agenda and tells the public it does not happen. Out of sight - out of mind. Problem solved!

But we have now build or still build the first mosque on a public university's property (right here in my hometown), while neither Jews nor Christians were allowed or have ever demanded to build a temple of theirs within any German university, anywhere.

We tolerate them into integration, I tell you.

We teach them what Islam really is! And when they see it, they will be thankful for us!

Without us, they never would have understood what Islam really is. I mean, what it really really is.

The prof for Islamic studies at said university (the first religious faculty of its kind here in Germany, I still cannot believe that they did this BS) for my taste is a hawk, but for the taste of Muslim communities in Germany he is too tolerant. They try to mob him out.

04-09-14, 08:33 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Stop contradicting yourself, mapuc. A Muslim not being fanatic could be argued to not be a real Muslim, since Muslim ideology educates people to be fanatics, and favours totalitarianism, suppression and discrimination. Where they are not, the education has failed, and they are not not fanatical because of Islam's teachings, but despite Islam's teachings. Muhammad did not want to send a choire of kids singing chants to pacify the world, he wanted obedient tribes paying protective money, and wanted warriors to wage war in order to spread his sphere of influence. The ideology reflects that. It'S a warrior's excuse to conquer the world and enforce his will on all others. For German readers: http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/a...l?config=print Some years ago, I already mentioned this man in some thread. I once met him, we had some minutes of brief but intense talking. Back then he still appeared a bit naive to me, and too dreamfully wishing for illusions. Meanwhile, he has written more books, and the events of the socalled Arab Spring seem to have left him impressed (at least that is my assumption), for he now voices far more determined criticism and less wishfull hopes, and uses far more plain and straight wordings. Needless to say that he makes himself no friends by that, but is threatened with murder and lives under 24/7 protection. Good man. The socialists have thrown him out of the Islam conference that the government holds with radical Islamic organisations, they have also refused several insiders and academically educated experts of Muslim descent because they criticise Islam and the conference - and that they do because of the infantile naivety of the politicians, and because the conference simply has skipped the problem of exploding Muslim radicalisation in Germany from it's agenda and tells the public it does not happen. Out of sight - out of mind. Problem solved! But we have now build or still build the first mosque on a public university's property (right here in my hometown), while neither Jews nor Christians were allowed or have ever demanded to build a temple of theirs within any German university, anywhere. We tolerate them into integration, I tell you. We teach them what Islam really is! And when they see it, they will be thankful for us! Without us, they never would have understood what Islam really is. I mean, what it really really is. The prof for Islamic studies at said university (the first religious faculty of its kind here in Germany, I still cannot believe that they did this BS) for my taste is a hawk, but for the taste of Muslim communities in Germany he is too tolerant. They try to mob him out. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 04-09-14 at 08:49 PM.