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Old 04-04-14, 09:20 PM   #134
Friscobay
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Originally Posted by Skybird View Post
You are wrong there, Friscobay. I am quite confident that if a stranger would suddenly stand in your living room and start to hold a political speech or a religious nuthead interrupts a cinema movie by stepping onto the stage and starting to engage people in a missionary speech or a fellow would raise in the restaurant walking from table to table trying to get people engaged in an argument over something, would make the owners of the place call the police or throw him out themselves. Same is true for the guy who starts to yell ideological paroles in the backyard after midnight and all windows become lit again, or a person storms a radio office and demands to be broadcasted, or some body demands the newspaper to print his essay for free although the newspapers refuses to print it.

You have to "own" the "place" and the "time" to practice free speech, if you do not own them, then your right of free speech is worth nothing. And we should be thankful for that. Regarding our private sphere, homes, houeses: its our places, and so its our rules. Somebody else is not free to say and do just anything within these just like he pleases.



Of course, but you did NOT frame the discussion in this manner. You included ALL speech which offends into the private world of ''space and time''.

It does not work that way. I clearly noted the exceptions granted the ''owner-operator'' of the private realm. [ who also has the right to include gaming modifications that display German naval ensigns that bear the swastika device as SUBSIM does ]. However, ''space and time'' does not allow protection from offense in other arenas. I made this plain as well. Germanys concerns are obvious and understandable. They both lost the war and started this issue to begin with. However, their guilt, cannot in any way, shape, or form, transfer itself to an expectation that a society such as that of the US, must relinquish its own devotion to the centuries-pondered ideals of free speech simply because you continue to struggle with the legacy of Hitlers Germany. Especially given the fact that these rights, were codified long before there even was a ''Germany'', let alone that ruled by a Third Reich. It is why American flags can be burned. It is why ''Illinois Nazis'' can march in Skokie and elsewhere.
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