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Originally Posted by Alex
I was indeed expecting someone to react that way, but I didn't suppose you were going to be that one, Steve.
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I don't accept anything as the truth, ever. As far as I'm concerned it's all propaganda until verifiable facts are shown. Russia walked into the Ukraine and the Ukraine had no choice but to let them. Russia's motives? I don't know, but Putin is a politician just like any other and he will put his own spin on things, just the same as Obama or any other world leader. They all have their own agenda, and will say just about anything to further it. Russia does have a history of taking over countries in the area, and to me this doesn't look much different. Of course I don't know what's really going on behind the scenes, but I'm betting you don't either.
The problem I have with your arguments is that you have a record of being anti-US. Perhaps you have good reason, or think you do. I do observe that your opinion of what's going on anywhere is influenced by this, and I think most here will agree that anything you say should also be taken with that "pinch of salt" because of the bias you show. That doesn't mean what you say isn't true, just that I and many others tend to see what you say as propaganda too.
This isn't meant to be a criticizm of you personally, just a statement of the reason I tend to not trust what you say, and what you quote, any more than I do Putin or Obama, or any of the rest of them.
As for PMs, I think this is very much on-topic, and you brought it up first with your claims of "propaganda". If one side of it is good enough for you to show, you can't turn around and want to take it private just because somebody disagrees with you.