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Old 03-02-14, 11:14 AM   #319
Oberon
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Originally Posted by sailor_X View Post
I will express myself once again if this wasn;t clear till now. Fight the wrong ones. Of course if you capable to understand who is the wrong ones. Perhaps you think that Ukraine is the same as Russia ? You're making a huge mistake if you think so.
So...fight Russia, eh? Fight a country which is quite capable of wiping us all off the map, fight a country with a military we can't even afford, whilst still stuck in Afghanistan.

Any other grand strategic ideas? Invading China perhaps?

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Originally Posted by Betonov View Post
I'd have them sit down, let Putin take the Russian majority part of Ukraine but give Kiev billions to invest in their country. A Crimean purchase.

Unfortunately all that money would go youknowwhere.
Not to modernize the railroads that's for sure. But it beats going to war
That's a bit more reasonable, but unfortunately I'm not sure that Kiev would let us sign over the Russian majority, even with the option to give Kiev billions...which we don't actually have.

No, what's likely going to happen is that Putin will do his business, and we'll slap him with every economic sanction we can think of for a few months and then lift them when we remember that most of Western Europe keeps their lights on through Russian gas, especially Germany, and then we'll quietly drop the sanctions and carry on as normal, attaching the Ukraine to the German financial teat and desperately trying to keep what's left of their economy afloat.

Basically, no matter who wins in this, the Ukraine is going to lose.
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