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Originally Posted by Skybird
And what do you call what the political paraiste do to the people? One could argue, that Bismarck introduced his social reforms (and effectively invented the social wellfare state) at a tiem when growing capitalism and the corresponding spread of wealth threatened the self-declared Fuhrer elites with a people that became increasingly free, liberal, and non_depending on politician's governing over them. Because they got lured back into obedience and submission to the state which nursed them and fed them. The same tactic as today.
That such a "freedom" can only be had at the price of Rousseau's reasoning, who wanted a total maximum of state and a total minimum of individualism, in essence declaring the state an absolute that replaced the individual freedom - that is something that many people today completely overlook, or ignore - or, if they have a heart beating strong for totalitarian collectivism, actively desire.
It's about power, Neon, and control. Not about ideals. Capitalism and free market is what emancipate people from their state masters' control and command. Non monopolised trade between free people, with no monopoles on prices or government control, robbery and power. Govenrment are unneeded parasites. Not more. There service is to suck your blood. And for that service they blackmail you for protection money. And when you pay it, they still hang on you, sucking. And send you into a war, maybe. Or a paper money currency that devalues your property. The property that you still are allowed to hold, and got not expropriated of.
Governments and politicians are as much needed and as useful as hemorrhoids in the anus. What is needed is a population educated in understand what the nature of real money is, and what economy is. With that knowledge, people can negotiate their bartering and trading, independently, freely, and self-responsibly. A nightmare for politicians. Their total uselessness and anti-social nature would immediately be so obvious for all to see . No more free ride. No more privileges for no merits. No more living by claiming to solve problems that one has caused oneself.
That's why Bismarck introduced the social wellfare legislation. Right at the time in history when Western people on a grand scale had the chance to become free from their self-.proclaimed leaders. What an unbelievable coincidence!
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You cannot trust business to have the people in mind, I could list a hundred pages of examples of just how brutal and psychopathic bushiness is. Capitalism did nothing of what you are claiming, it did not liberate the individual, it enslaved them even more to the system than ever before in history. Almost everyone became a wage slave, bound and owned by the company and discarded without a second thought. Capitalism is the key thing that sparked Marxism in the first place, because of the sheer brutality of the system. It is also responsible for the massive shift in wealth over the last 100 years to the elite few. Capitalism makes its money by exploiting the people to the maximum extent it can.
Everything needs to be balanced out and a really functional society needs a bit of everything. When I speak of government, I speak of one that is accountable to the people, and acts in the best interest of the people and country. In a sense, I speak of what the founding fathers of the United States tried to form. But to do that politicians need to be incentiveised to work for the people. You need to outlaw business (The money people) having control of politicians or the government. That is where the corruption comes from.
Again I suggest the three videos I posted earlier. They may be a bit idealistic, and the big question would be how to get to what they are proposing, but I think the suggestions make a lot of sense.