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Originally Posted by Oberon
The US military (and other military powers for that matter, it's not just a US thing) has a nasty habit of forgetting lessons learnt in one war just in time to fight the next. There were quite a few hard lessons learnt in Korea that didn't get carried over to Vietnam, I don't know why, perhaps each generation of general thinks that the laws of the previous are outdated, when in fact while the weaponry may have changed, the warfare is still the same. I saw this cartoon once, I think for those of us interested in history it rings so very true:
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This is true and of course not everyone in the military follows the "party line" some do think out of the box.Of course you can only follow orders.My father told me once that a common method in Vietnam when given a complete idiot order was to "misinterpret" what was said in order to not waste lives pointlessly.
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Originally Posted by gi_dan2987
Have you ever thought for a moment that the results we've gotten in Iraq and Afghan were precisely the results they wanted? We went into Iraq with 99 year leases on the airbases. What does that tell you? That it was going to be some "in-n-out" sort of thing? I served in Iraq myself, and based on what I saw, we were there to secure the oil resources and secure the standing of the petro dollar. Let's not forget, Saddam threatened the international banksters by threatening to trade oil in gold buillon and Iraqi Dinar. Now you see the whole "weapons of mass destruction" ruse come to light. What are WMD's anyways? Just like "terrorist" the term can be used and applied wherever one wishes. Kind of a scary thought is it not? Well that thought has been reality ever since the signing of the Patriot Act. We're in a mess, and I'm afraid most people don't know the half of the deception that's going on.
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Not a fan of conspiracy theories so sorry.Not sure where you where my two older brothers where in Iraq and lack the opinion that you have and if you polled people who served in any war you'll get several hundred differing opinions my father for example was in Vietnam for two tours guys that served with him have a multitude of opinions about the whole thing.Not that they felt it was "Cluster Flog" free mind you.Never went to Iraq myself only Afghanistan so I cant really say anything personally about Iraq.A bad choice cluster flogged situation and a conspiracy theory are not one in the same and that is all I have to say about that.