[Father Goose]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Well, think about it this way.

Back when our older members here grew up, they weren't told "Everybody is a winner" and "No matter what you do, it's okay"

I grew up like that...but a lot of people are being raised to be victims because no matter what they do, they're okay and nobody will judge them.

I grew up knowing that there can't be 4 winners...there is one winner and you don't get there by just participating.

We're getting lazy IMHO. And soft....because nobody wants to offend anybody anymore. I'll use P.E. as an example. I guarantee Physical Education classes in 1960 were a lot different than they are now.

Now, no matter what game you are playing, you have the right to be offended and the right to get upset and make a big stink over somebody calling you a dummy...and the right to quit/not participate/do your own thing because of it. All because you were raised thinking that everybody is a winner and everybody is equal in sporting events no matter the score. No matter what happens, you are you and that's good enough for society.

Every time there's a bullying case in the news or something similar, it just adds to this IMHO.

People need to suck it up and learn to take it, because you can't be a winner in life by "just participating" and I think the way we teach kids early on is causing society to go soft.

"Oh. It's okay. He's a winner no matter what" has gone way too far.

I think all these people who are being "bullied" need to learn to stand up for themselves.

Just one of my opinion-theories. I remember hating a youth basketball league I signed up for because it was this way and I would tell them at the end of the games that "there can't be two winners. There's the team that won and the team that lost" and I was probably around 9 or 10 at the time.


However....

There is a point where the hazing and bullying can be a problem. I believe in a little bit of both here. If it is a problem, then don't be afraid to 1) stand up for yourself or 2) consult a higher authority on what you should do.


I'm probably going to light the forum on fire with this one if I go any further....so I'll stop now.

Great post Red!