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Old 10-28-13, 09:10 AM   #12
danasan
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Originally Posted by Skybird View Post
States have no friends, it is naive to assume that. States have interests, and so at best are temporary partners regarding practical issues.

I expected nothing else than what is revealed in Germany these days. I am only surprised that so many people seriously claim to have been unknowing. As I said: naivety en masse over here.

The deep mistrust between Merkel and Obama was existent already before.

The French, British, Russians and Chinese spy on us, too.

All this spying is not so much about terrorism. It is about economic spionage, business spying, knowing in advance the negotiation tactic of the other when meeting him at the table next day. It is about how to penetrate best and anchor deepest own business lobbyists in the other's political every day politics. The British even were so kind to say that out clear and loud - cudos for their honesty!

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No need to apologize, Bubblehead. Or have you given the order to the NSA?
I totally agree on that.

Let me add, please, it is about resources as well: Oil, gas, water etc.

On another note, it seems to me as if the political part of the USA ( not the people ) is going to continue their politics of isolation from the rest of the world. And yes, resources again, seems to me the reason for that.

Look over there to China, they are growing - economically speaking - each and every year at a percentage which the rest of the world is loosing every year, generally speaking. And they are going to get all the resources like oil, gas they can get. Is that a situation the USA as a "superpower" can/will live with?

OK, we lost WWI and WWII. There is still no peace contract/declaration. We are still not a sovereign state and who knows if and when we will be. We are nothing better than a "suburb" of the USA today. But I really do wonder if it could be worse being a "suburb" of China or Russia? I'm fine with that.



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