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Skybird · 10-08-13, 06:30 PM

I'm saying it since so many years: trapped in the Afghan maze.

One should have waged the war in Afghanistan against the Koran schools in Pakistan. One should have left it to the original goal of the mission: searching, finding and killing Bin Laden (finally found and terminated in - surprise surprise - Pakistan). And one should have left that rat-hole of a place to itself. Wasn't worth the life of a single American or European soldier. It's stuck in the medieval like it was stuck in the medieval before and was stuck in the medieval before the Russian invasion. It will continue to be stuck there when the last Western soldier has left the place. The corruption will still be there. The suppression of women soon will be on former levels. The flow of drugs will be high as ever. Patriarchalism and tribalism will be as ever. Old bills between clans and warlords having their private armies will be as ever.

Paul Meier or John Smith who were killed for that - what was the value of their deaths? To see warlords and Taliban and the ISI and the Iranians and drug smugglers going back to business as usual?

Let's face it, this is the complete result of the past 14 years' ambitions and declarations, when the last troops have left: after the war is like before the war.

One could have known it in advance. And some did, and warned. And were not listened to. The world was drunk of empathy for post-9/11 America. And the empathy switched off intellects all over the West. The Paul Meiers and John Smiths in Nato's armies died useless, needless, pointless deaths because of that: political drunkenness. There is a whole list of political leaders that should get hanged for that, because it is not as if they could not have known. They could have known it.

That is what is the worst in it all, maybe: they could have known it, if only they would have wanted. Nothing of this final result came as a surprise. Nothing of it was unforseeable.

It makes me sick to see well-intended men, idealistic helpers, and troops in good faith of their government being betrayed and wasted so unscrupulously and carelessly.

10-08-13, 06:30 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,605 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm saying it since so many years: trapped in the Afghan maze. One should have waged the war in Afghanistan against the Koran schools in Pakistan. One should have left it to the original goal of the mission: searching, finding and killing Bin Laden (finally found and terminated in - surprise surprise - Pakistan). And one should have left that rat-hole of a place to itself. Wasn't worth the life of a single American or European soldier. It's stuck in the medieval like it was stuck in the medieval before and was stuck in the medieval before the Russian invasion. It will continue to be stuck there when the last Western soldier has left the place. The corruption will still be there. The suppression of women soon will be on former levels. The flow of drugs will be high as ever. Patriarchalism and tribalism will be as ever. Old bills between clans and warlords having their private armies will be as ever. Paul Meier or John Smith who were killed for that - what was the value of their deaths? To see warlords and Taliban and the ISI and the Iranians and drug smugglers going back to business as usual? Let's face it, this is the complete result of the past 14 years' ambitions and declarations, when the last troops have left: after the war is like before the war. One could have known it in advance. And some did, and warned. And were not listened to. The world was drunk of empathy for post-9/11 America. And the empathy switched off intellects all over the West. The Paul Meiers and John Smiths in Nato's armies died useless, needless, pointless deaths because of that: political drunkenness. There is a whole list of political leaders that should get hanged for that, because it is not as if they could not have known. They could have known it. That is what is the worst in it all, maybe: they could have known it, if only they would have wanted. Nothing of this final result came as a surprise. Nothing of it was unforseeable. It makes me sick to see well-intended men, idealistic helpers, and troops in good faith of their government being betrayed and wasted so unscrupulously and carelessly. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.