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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro
even rats can win sometimes if they just keep knawing and knawing away.
I think I'll go have a beer and remember how bad President Johnson and President Nixon were as leaders, but as for this guy good riddance 
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Sore laser syndrome? America, Australia and the French before them had ample opportunity to avoid both wars at the end of WWII. Had England and France not demanded their former colonial estate be reestablished and an independent Vietnam set up the whole sorry situation could have been avoided.
The French and US generals were culpable in their failure to understand the situation and their enemies. Giap and the other Vietnamese generals studied their enemies and their behaviour and using low cost tactics made a mockery of the modern armies they faced. They also understood that if they kept going they would eventually force their opponents to leave the field. If you can't accept the fact that your army navy airforce and marines eere beaten through better tactics and sheer persistence then there's not much hope for you. My father and an uncle were also involved in the conflict and they both accepted the fact we were outsmarted by the Vietnamese.