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Originally Posted by Webster
BH why do you even entertain them? you should know by now you can't argue facts with trolls and 911 truthers because they just ignore or make up their own facts to fit whatever argument they want to have. they are only here to argue and never want to accept the truth or re-evaluate their position when you prove them wrong.
they will always point to the handful of things obamacare does right and blatantly ignore the 5,000 things it does wrong and how it completely destroys the greatest health care system in the world.
if other countries socialized care was so great why do people regularly die on year long waiting lists denied care until their number on the list comes up? people leave their countries and come to the USA to get the care they need without being told to wait in line and hope they don't die.
the sad truth is you cant stop obamacare because the lemmings blindly voted for santa clause who gives them free goodies (paid for by working americans). with 50% of America on the government dole there will never be a republican or conservative in control to undo the nanny state so it will stay that way until this country implodes and the people finally stop voting for socialism.
another truth is the health care industry is done in this country and health care will be a cash only product from now on. if you can pay you can get care, if not go sit on a government waiting list and be told what tests you are allowed to have rather then the ones you really need. this may actually get the unintended result of causing the side effect of having affordable health care in the form of cash only care.
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I suppose because I have dealt with their types before and eventually, in most cases, they come around.Back when I was 17, 18, I was always the conservative, I knew better, I knew the evils of liberalism. Some was just a natural "wait a minute, this is bull" and other was proper influences, not wanting to be one of the ignorant masses.All my friends though, while intelligent, were typical kids who thought they had to be liberal.Now, here we are post college, in the real world and prob out of 6 I can think of I regularly sparred with in high school and college, 4 have flat out converted, one is on the fence and the other is a hardcore lefty who has yet to see the error of her ways.Most people get a bit more conservative as they age because reality does not match with liberal/progressive ideology.
Now, it is a given that internet discussion is far different than in person but I don't give up especially when I know that I am right.I am patient and love it when even years down road, I am proven correct.I will never give up the battle on obamacare and hope those in congress do not, it is that much of a threat. I don't want us to have NHS style system or a cash system where only those who can pay get the proper car, the rest linger on the government roles.I would rather fight it and try to change , do my part , that is the battle and it is how the long game is won. Win with ideas and logic, no matter what they call you, what they say, you keep pressing and eventually, it will work, will you everyone to see the light? No, but can get enough. Yes, it's a tough battle, that is why they want so many people dependent on the government, it means POWER.
I have fought and continue to fight this battle everyday, in class, with friends, and even on this forum.I do my part to make a difference, it works with some, not with others, results are often delayed but I have seen results know I have made a difference.This is why despite tribes being a troll, I don't give up, I prob won't ignore him because it is not in my nature but it does get old when he wont discuss, he just insults but oh well.