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vienna · 09-30-13, 03:29 PM

It should be pointed out the GOP did in fact raise the issue of ACA being an actual tax at the very start of the whole process of creating the Act. The GOP members of Congress from the Tea Party Loyalists to the more moderate (and more sane) GOP members did try to point out the ACA was a tax; in fact, even the Rightist media (Fox News, Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al.) very loudly and repeatedly made the ACA being a tax an issue. Then, all of a sudden, they backed off and became silent on the whole "ACA is a tax" tangent. They suddenly tried to portray the ACA as anything other than a tax. Perhaps they were informed by some other people in their ranks who actually knew the Constitution and the law that the ACA, as a tax, was legal (passed by Congress, as all taxes are) and governed by the Commerce Clause. It almost appeared as if the GOP actually appeared to believe that if they didn't mention the ACA was a tax, the Supreme Court would fail to see the Commerce Clause coverage of the Act. Justice Roberts made the proper, and fully legal and Constitutional, finding the ACA is a tax and within the Constitutional parameters...

There at times the GOP right reminds me of a Marx Bros. scene from the movie "Monkey Business:

Chico: You call this a barn? This looks like a stable.

Groucho: It looks like a barn but smells like a stable.

Chico: Well, let's just look at it.

The GOP is being gutted by the Far Right of its membership in the same manner the Dems were gutted by the Far Left during the period dominated by McCarthy, McGovern, and others and the GOP will suffer the same fate of losing the confidence of the American public and being marginalized politically the Dems went through. The Tea Party and the other Far Right lunkheads are doing the same thing to the GOP the scandals of Nixon did to the GOP in the 60s and 70s and this time they don't have a Goldwater or Dirksen to bring order to the mess or even an all-style-no-substance figurehead like Reagan to help them wage a PR battle. Instead they have a barely able Boehner in the House, a nut case Cruz in the Senate and a seemingly vast assortment of other nutjobs to represent the "future" of the party. If, as it seems to be the trend, the GOP implodes on itself, the party 'leadership' has only themselves to blame; the Dems and Obama have only to sit back, watch, and then profit from the GOP version of the "Titanic"...

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09-30-13, 03:29 PM	#28
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,719 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It should be pointed out the GOP did in fact raise the issue of ACA being an actual tax at the very start of the whole process of creating the Act. The GOP members of Congress from the Tea Party Loyalists to the more moderate (and more sane) GOP members did try to point out the ACA was a tax; in fact, even the Rightist media (Fox News, Limbaugh, Hannity, et. al.) very loudly and repeatedly made the ACA being a tax an issue. Then, all of a sudden, they backed off and became silent on the whole "ACA is a tax" tangent. They suddenly tried to portray the ACA as anything other than a tax. Perhaps they were informed by some other people in their ranks who actually knew the Constitution and the law that the ACA, as a tax, was legal (passed by Congress, as all taxes are) and governed by the Commerce Clause. It almost appeared as if the GOP actually appeared to believe that if they didn't mention the ACA was a tax, the Supreme Court would fail to see the Commerce Clause coverage of the Act. Justice Roberts made the proper, and fully legal and Constitutional, finding the ACA is a tax and within the Constitutional parameters... There at times the GOP right reminds me of a Marx Bros. scene from the movie "Monkey Business: Chico: You call this a barn? This looks like a stable. Groucho: It looks like a barn but smells like a stable. Chico: Well, let's just look at it. The GOP is being gutted by the Far Right of its membership in the same manner the Dems were gutted by the Far Left during the period dominated by McCarthy, McGovern, and others and the GOP will suffer the same fate of losing the confidence of the American public and being marginalized politically the Dems went through. The Tea Party and the other Far Right lunkheads are doing the same thing to the GOP the scandals of Nixon did to the GOP in the 60s and 70s and this time they don't have a Goldwater or Dirksen to bring order to the mess or even an all-style-no-substance figurehead like Reagan to help them wage a PR battle. Instead they have a barely able Boehner in the House, a nut case Cruz in the Senate and a seemingly vast assortment of other nutjobs to represent the "future" of the party. If, as it seems to be the trend, the GOP implodes on itself, the party 'leadership' has only themselves to blame; the Dems and Obama have only to sit back, watch, and then profit from the GOP version of the "Titanic"... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __ Last edited by vienna; 09-30-13 at 04:14 PM.