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Old 08-31-13, 05:39 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Ducimus View Post
Hate to tell you, but your sound like one of those "internet experts".
Wouldn't know. Not trying to.
Asking for links and credible sources. Nothing internet expert about it.



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No, I don't think you do.
Yes i think, in fact i know i do.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what i called him out on. Until he mentioned he had combat experience.
Which in the light of his uneducated claim that he made re chemical attack(s) has nothing to do with it.
So for someone to bring that ole i served and have combat experience into the fray when it didn't need to be doesn't wash with me.
He made a claim, which was and still isn't backed up by cold hard facts.
No amount of: "oh but i served and saw it many times with my own eyes" will give someone who posts a claim based on nothing other than some blogger who links a crap video and does game reviews the ability to make such a claim.
Unless of course, like i suggested, the poster is on the ground, and was actively present in the samples taken, the analyising of said samples, the construction and finalising of reports of said samples, and the delivery of reports to the un council.
If thats not the case then i'm afraid he, like me and you and others of this community are in the same boat and cannot make claims like the one that was made.





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You do realize that a word like "but" is a retraction of your previous statement right? So, no you really don't respect first hand experience. I will grant that there are a lot of "internet experts" and "Keyboard commando's" that pretend to be something their not. However, with Detcord im inclined to believe he's not some poser.
See my above post.
Once again, i was quiete happy to ask for links and some sort of evidence which is actually credible, not some garbage posted by some blogger.
Why the serving in combat came up, don't hold me to account, ask him.
You're assuming and putting words in my mouth.
I'm quiete happy and possibly sometimes a bit harsh in debating and asking for links to a claim made, but for someone to throw the "i served" line and to then expect automatic credibility to their posts in future, from that moment on is ludicrous.
I hope you're not implying that that is the case, since that would disappoint me.
I asked for links, credible sources to his claim, and the poster came up with a dodgy link and that he served.
Now, you say i don't respect someone because they served?
You're basing that on what?
Assumptions?
Knowledge?
Or just the thought process that "how dare someone questions someone who served" no matter what they post?
Seems like it.






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Dude, If i had served in recent years and been there, done that, bought the T shirt, i'd have said the same thing. Because when you pair that personal experience to what your saying on a message board and having most likely never seen anything at all first hand, well.... yeah
Yea yea i get it, if you served it gives you the right to claim something, granted, with more knowledge than say i, however once again, to make a claim like the one he did is nothing without cold hard facts.
The difference between you and me it seems is that you seem to think that how dare i question him and that i should put up and shut up and let him or anyone who has served post claims without being able to ask for links or even question what they say.
Stuff that.

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Nothing personal Feuer Frei, I'm just saying when you go barking up someones tree who may have actual experience, you may want to think about it first. Because if your wrong, you make yourself look really bad.
Nothing personal either, although if it isn't then your claims are pretty harsh.
As for me being wrong?
Not likely since i don't spout out claims in a thread, and bleat undeniably that that is what happened, without so much as an iota of proof, from say a body or organisation that is actually involved in the current conflict, not 10 years ago or however long poster served, or you for that matter, then i think it's quiete appropriate to ask for further clarification on why that poster made such a claim.
Without getting into the whole debate of oh oh i served, which has absolutely nothing to do with the request to present facts to a claim made in relation to this particular issue.

You will of course say that veterans are more quaslified to comment on matters such as these, i have no doubt.
But, it still doesn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt whether the claim made is true or not.

I rest my case for now.

I don't want to get into a slanging match with you.
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