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Skybird · 08-28-13, 02:27 PM

You just confirm what i say, DanD. In Germany the power price becomes the higher, due to the subsidies, the more renewable from wind and solar is produced. Take away the subsidies, and nobody would have bought solar panels.

That is not a functioning and healthy system.

The powergrid is also not ready to transport power from the windy North to the industrial South. More money there is needed, making it even more expensive, forseeably.

Germany in Winter has been repeatedly close to blackouts since three years now. Reserves had to be bought from Austria, Poland and France. Nuclear and coal-produced reserves

Before Germany suffered so dearly from Fukushima, our energy situation was stable. Now it is not.

And the private households have to pay significantly more every year. My bill has climbed constantly, too. Although I managed to slightly reduce energy consumption for the fourth year in a row now. The price per kW-hour has risen and more than ate update the saved difference.

The energy revolution is not run by market logic, but ideology. Thats why it sooner or later will be so expensive for the ordinary households that they cannot afford it anymore. Demand for more socialist robbing of the wealthy will grow louder then. A subsidized system does not develope competitiveness. That is the purpose kf subsidies, a workaround for something that is not competitive.

You see the same with the jnsanity Germany has installed regarding house. isolations and making them energy-efficient. The gains are small, are causing many negative sideeffects and followup-costs, and the costs are so high that many ordinary house owners cannot stem them and that even after 20 years the costs have not been compensated by energy-savings. It is ideology-driven madness.

Too little is gained at too high costs, and with too many negative side-effects. That is the main criticism here.

http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrich...-in-die-hoehe/

And as you know as well as I do, electricity costs for the industry are protected and lower than for private people. The trend for households is even sharper.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,813 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You just confirm what i say, DanD. In Germany the power price becomes the higher, due to the subsidies, the more renewable from wind and solar is produced. Take away the subsidies, and nobody would have bought solar panels. That is not a functioning and healthy system. The powergrid is also not ready to transport power from the windy North to the industrial South. More money there is needed, making it even more expensive, forseeably. Germany in Winter has been repeatedly close to blackouts since three years now. Reserves had to be bought from Austria, Poland and France. Nuclear and coal-produced reserves Before Germany suffered so dearly from Fukushima, our energy situation was stable. Now it is not. And the private households have to pay significantly more every year. My bill has climbed constantly, too. Although I managed to slightly reduce energy consumption for the fourth year in a row now. The price per kW-hour has risen and more than ate update the saved difference. The energy revolution is not run by market logic, but ideology. Thats why it sooner or later will be so expensive for the ordinary households that they cannot afford it anymore. Demand for more socialist robbing of the wealthy will grow louder then. A subsidized system does not develope competitiveness. That is the purpose kf subsidies, a workaround for something that is not competitive. You see the same with the jnsanity Germany has installed regarding house. isolations and making them energy-efficient. The gains are small, are causing many negative sideeffects and followup-costs, and the costs are so high that many ordinary house owners cannot stem them and that even after 20 years the costs have not been compensated by energy-savings. It is ideology-driven madness. Too little is gained at too high costs, and with too many negative side-effects. That is the main criticism here. http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrich...-in-die-hoehe/ And as you know as well as I do, electricity costs for the industry are protected and lower than for private people. The trend for households is even sharper. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 08-28-13 at 02:37 PM.