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Originally Posted by Packlife
Personally I never really saw it as a classic military coup, which if I understand it right is a small group of a military that want to seize control of the power for them selves. This was the more a big majority of the Egyptian people who were fed up of watchin Morsi drive Egypt into destruction. 1 person described it as they only had working utilities for a few hours a day, the economy was the worse it had ever been, thats just a few examples. When people are saying your worse the Mubarak you know you suck at being the leader. The MB have been trying for 80 years to gain power/control an they are not going to just say ok you win we lose. But the "security forces" have kinda went off the deep end with their crack downs, if people want to sit in their little tent towns let them. But if they start killing an bad stuff like that then yeah do something about it. A lot of people were worried about the radical branch of the MB the jihadi MB members who have no problem going full blow Iraq insurgency. The funniest thing was people were saying "Oh but Morsi was democratically voted in" yeah an Hitler was voted in too, these guys had their shot at doing the right thing. An instead they started locking up political opponents an ramming a phony constitution through that nobody liked but them. I guess in the end the people an the military had 2 choices sit back an watch your country fall apart or do something about it.
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The MB has attacked and burnt down over 50 Christian churches and had its snipers shooting without aim into groups of residents to create a higher body count so that the West yells louder. They tortured prisoners to death and murdered others. You could not let them sit in their tents and say "let them". These are thugs that know that the West is assisting them the more the higher the body count becomes, and so they do their share to push it as high as they can. Such scum you do not want to share governmental power no matter whether it got there by elections or otherwise - such scum you want under tightest possible control.
A coup it is when the military revolts against a government supported by the majority of people. When it rises against a government that the majority of people wants to get rid of, when it rises after the people explicitly demanded it to do so and to help the people, then it is not so much a coup, but a revolt or revolution. The MB has had over one year to prove itself - and like I expected, it just managed to let fall its mask, delivered nothing but its stoneage barbarism and conspiracy with Islamic terrorism, and it showed that it is incompetent to run the administrational challenges of everyday government. Medieval tyranny - that is what is to come from the MB, nothing else. Instead of improving Egypts status and the situation of its people, the MB cared more to get better financed by certain Gulf states to boost jihad, and it widened cooperation with Palestinian terror groups. That may be the reason why today I read in the newspaper Saudi Arabia has encouraged Egypt'S military to play hard on the MB, by assuring them that if Egypt would be punished by the stupid Westerners by having financial aid cut or suspended, Saudi Arabia would fully compensate Egypt for the financial losses.
Not that the US would cancel its military aid, Egypt is too important for them, with the Suez channel being just one factor.
Also, it would help to have a basic understanding of the historical record and development and role-defining of the Egyptian military. It is a bit more subtle than just painting black-white stereotypes here. Egyptians are apparently aware of that, and the current revival of Nasser may be an indication for that. That Nasser is becoming that popular again cannot be calming or comforting from a Western POV - it should be a warning on how alienated Egyptians already are by Western visions of what Egyptians should do. I recommend we leave that decision to those who know better than us what they want - the Egyptians themselves.
The situation right now in no way compares to the Algerian drama in the first half of the nineties. We were in Algeria short after the historical climax of the turmoils there, it was the most dangerous place I ever have been, for the situation was totally unpredictable and could not be assessed, for half a dozen factions, sides and intel agencies were stabbing and shooting at just everybody else. Compared to the death tolls they had in Algeria, the massacres, the villages being wiped out, the pogroms, the events in Egypt are nothing, absolutely nothing. The talking about an Egyptian civil war is clueless hysteria so far that the MB propagates to help its cause, the West propagates to gets its will of a formally democratic but in reality terrorist and deeply racist regime, and the occasional observer watching it while sitting on the fence most likely does not know what he is talking about.
When the situation approaches what they have had in Algerian bloodshed and chaos in the early 90s - then I start thinking about a terminology including terms like "civil war".
Allah is our objective, the Quran is our law, the Prophet is our leader, Jihad is our way, death for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations. - Motto of the MB. Still wanna shake hands with them? Handfeeding a shark sounds like a good idea to you, eh?