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Mittelwaechter · 07-30-13, 11:48 AM

@ skybird

Your arguments against gay families are not persuasive to me. All this 'behavioural abnormality' you describe is not only with gay people but with most of the people considered to be normal.
Parents who have been violently abused by their parents tend to do the same to their childeren sooner or later.
Our kids are exposured to all stupid life experience and bad behaviour, all mental chaos and all social malformation, all prejudices and all brain f from their 'normal' parents.
Any crazy sociopath is entitled to grow some kids if only he or she is straight.
It makes no sense at all to tell gay people they shall not marry and have children. Not to live their lives the way they want to.

My personal experience with homosexuals is, they are nonviolent and very social, creative and funny. They rarely take extreme positions and are very open minded. They are nice, cultivated couples and unimportunate individuals.
I think they are at least as ideal to raise kids as any other parents. They live an example of diversity, proving that 'difference' is no reason for social exclusion. A good lesson to learn for all of us, including their kids.
I know enough heterosexual couples and singles way more absurd and socially incompetent to be justifiable parents. No one would ever hinder them to marry or breed children.
Our society should grant the freedom for both sexual orientations to express their personality and to found a family.
And for the sake of the children these families should be cared for by the law as usual.
A special treatment for gay families is only necessary right now, because we make them special. Let them live as every other couple and let them have kids to care for.
We will lern there is no difference before long. I guess we may even learn the gay parents may be more caring. Who knows?

And accidents happen. That's normal. Diversity is normal, mutation is normal, individuality is normal...
That's life.

Edit:
Even you and me could be 'accidents'. A little hole in our fathers rubber sock you know...
Our whole existence may be based on an accident, not just our sexual orientation. Should we be treated special in that case?

07-30-13, 11:48 AM	#4
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	@ skybird Your arguments against gay families are not persuasive to me. All this 'behavioural abnormality' you describe is not only with gay people but with most of the people considered to be normal. Parents who have been violently abused by their parents tend to do the same to their childeren sooner or later. Our kids are exposured to all stupid life experience and bad behaviour, all mental chaos and all social malformation, all prejudices and all brain f from their 'normal' parents. Any crazy sociopath is entitled to grow some kids if only he or she is straight. It makes no sense at all to tell gay people they shall not marry and have children. Not to live their lives the way they want to. My personal experience with homosexuals is, they are nonviolent and very social, creative and funny. They rarely take extreme positions and are very open minded. They are nice, cultivated couples and unimportunate individuals. I think they are at least as ideal to raise kids as any other parents. They live an example of diversity, proving that 'difference' is no reason for social exclusion. A good lesson to learn for all of us, including their kids. I know enough heterosexual couples and singles way more absurd and socially incompetent to be justifiable parents. No one would ever hinder them to marry or breed children. Our society should grant the freedom for both sexual orientations to express their personality and to found a family. And for the sake of the children these families should be cared for by the law as usual. A special treatment for gay families is only necessary right now, because we make them special. Let them live as every other couple and let them have kids to care for. We will lern there is no difference before long. I guess we may even learn the gay parents may be more caring. Who knows? And accidents happen. That's normal. Diversity is normal, mutation is normal, individuality is normal... That's life. Edit: Even you and me could be 'accidents'. A little hole in our fathers rubber sock you know... Our whole existence may be based on an accident, not just our sexual orientation. Should we be treated special in that case? __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE Last edited by Mittelwaechter; 07-30-13 at 12:15 PM.