[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by garren

Blacks were better off during Jim Crow than today. We weren't killing each other like we are today. We only had to worry about a few crazy whites killing us.

Ultimately this is comparing apples to oranges. Statistically your right, blacks were generally more likely to simply be able to keep living on a daily basis than they are today, given the intra-racial epidemic of murder and violence by young, black men. Still, that is only part of the story.

Just look at the black music from the 1950s and how happy and upbeat it was compared to today. Now we rap out of anger and it's ugly music that comes from pint up rage and aggression and hate.

Now I am a dumb white country boy without a racist bone in my body - so I have to ask - the pent up rage and hate - what is it really over?

Is it the economic injustice? The history of oppression that some see as continuing today? An effect of the society that has destroyed the "nuclear family" and left too many young, black youth without a "father figure" in their life showing them how to grow and be a successful and responsible member of society?

Why were we so much happier in the 1950s and more positive in our music than we are today with all this supposed freedom? Again, every time the leftists help the black man - he's not helping him at all and just hurting him more but making himself out to be the hero when he's really the villain.

That is because your average leftist doesn't want "the black man" (in this case, black society) to start standing on its own and changing what doesn't work. If black society rejected the "victim, you are owed" mentality that is sold it by the left, with its constant reminder of how bad it is out there in the "white man's world", then blacks as a voting block would go "off the plantation" and start realizing that conservatives (NOT republicans) are not out to get them.

So sure, I think my race would be a lot better off back in the 1950s as well.

What your aiming at is that when "free" blacks are still held down economically by a system designed to keep them undereducated and underserved, more die because of the results. The repeal of "jim crow" (who was never an actual person) did a lot to help the black community, but it also did a lot to harm it - because throwing together two unequal societies does not suddenly make them all equal.