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Old 07-02-13, 04:05 PM   #15
Schroeder
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OK, so by loosing you mean facing occupation of your own turf by hostile forces. In that case you're almost right then. But there were Americans who faced that before 1864 and that were the natives (whole new can of worms here.). But I see where you are coming from.
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