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Old 05-31-13, 05:29 AM   #23
reignofdeath
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@ Nipplespanner,

Just like Oberon said, PACTs doctrine was waves and waves of enemies, which makes sense. Yes NATO does feel underpowered at times, but I hate that discussion, they feel underpowered in AREAS not as a whole, the game is meant to feel like that. Saying that one side is OP or UP is moot because what they wanted was uniqueness, hence some countries have close to 0 AA and so on and so forth.

On top of that, National decks aren't the only thing you can use, it pays sometimes to go for an ERA as well with minor nations or on the flip side, a specialization and an ERA.
Air Assault and Para, whichever one gives infantry +1 Vet and makes them cost -1 Activation per slot, plus a 1975 ERA makes someone playing against you with ANY infantry horrible in that sense, because you have loads of usually cheaper much more veteran infantry.
And that can make a huge difference, which also helps if you have crappy normal AA, with the ERA and specialization, you can get 3 slots of manpads or so depending on the nation and they will have quite a few that are Hardened or better, which, en masse, can be good.

I play NATO alot, and have no problem using them to win, we completely demolished PACT on a 4v4 today (me and some pubs) in total destruction none the less. When I play PACT (My only PACT deck is a USSR deck) seems to be that their higher end units are a deal more costly than NATO, I ALWAYS seem to never have enough deployment points with my PACT deck.

Another example, I forget what map I was playing on but I was playing with my New French Deck, in a 2v2 with Arc, me and the other player on my side rushed for the same spot (This was in a low point game mind you). He got there first and demolished my forces, which were brittle because I used chopper based inf. So I let him have the zone, called in what reinforcements I could (A roland 2, and some infantry like 4 squads and a few other things and I held the line, constantly making tweaks) well he decided he would roll up on me with a T80U and 2 BMPTs. Started demolishing what I had, he kept peeking the 80 up over this hill we were on to get a shot off, and then reversing back down. His BMPTs were providing suppresive fire on my infantry in the woods. So what did I do? I called in a cluster airstike on his BMPTs to stun them (killed one too), and thankfully, I had 2x2 sets of AMX10s with the Harpoons coming, blew the other up as well. Now I had to deal with his T 80. Simple, I called in a AMX 40, brought it down on the level his T 80 was at and just out of sight. Pincered him with my Harpoons and kept him busy and as he was dominating my AMX10s and probably feeling like king of the world, moved my 40 up to visual range and blam one shot in the side took him out end of story.

Sorry for that wall of text, I am not the best playr by any means I lose quite a bit. But overall I dont feel PACT or NATO at all is OP, just slight tweaks need to be made such as prices and other things to find a nice warm spot. This game is all about adapting, its dynamic, you have a problem that you cant normally counter, fine, you must get creative. Thats the fun in it.

EDIT: And building off of what Arclight said, tweaks obviously still need to be made, however, I wouldn't say its difficult to score points for NATO, they just have to do it in a different way.
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