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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Multiple Messiahs on multiple bicycles. There's not much point continuing this, seeing as you're convinced homosexuality is the same as vampirism.

From what I understand sexuality is but a part of it. Genders mature and develop at different times and rates, different moods and changes. That said, mixed-sex schools get along just fine, as do single-sex schools.

Also gender is split roughly fifty/fifty, whereas sexuality is certainly a majority/minority situation that I don't believe warrants segregation, and I think any segregation perpetuates negative attitudes, especially in younger people.

Certainly not the level of discourse we're having now, and certainly not within scouting troops. I'd say once the BSA gets rid of these unhelpful restrictions it will get back to the business of Scouting. The adjustment will be minor, unless homophobia takes up more time in Scouting than I know. Just guessing, mind

Oh I've no idea about the levels, you may well be right. I'd guess more religious organisations support it. Question is whether being exclusionary and fencing yourself off to a sector of society is worth it just to appease these organisations?

The rise of support and acceptance for homosexuals (and corresponding decrease in homophobic policymaking) has been blisteringly fast in recent years. I don't see it being a wedge issue for much longer, so I don't see the "tearing apart" happening here to any great extent.

There's an obvious divide among the people. Isn't it obvious? So the government and gay supporters throwing fuel on the fire is your answer. Let's just enrage the hell out of the one side that is against this absurdity. We don't even allow straight males to shower with straight females but we're going to allow gay males to shower with each other and with straight males? So gays have more privilege than heterosexuals? Why not segregate them so they can have their own thing. You just admitted that people segregate themselves based on common interests anyways so how is it discriminating against them if they're going to do it anyways? What you're arguing for is that gays won't be allowed to trespass against another group that doesn't agree with their way of life. Well ain't that shame! Isn't that groups rights and concerns valid too? Hell, let's force Jews to congregate with Christians and Christians to congregate with Muslims while we're at it. Because what that is IS forced integration - a part of the New World Order phenomenon of getting everyone to be just like everyone else and not celebrating diversity at all. Because when you integrate people into one large group, popular opinion takes place an everyone will be forced to comply and do just as everyone else does or be an outcast and feel unwelcomed - sort of like on here as a matter of fact where I'm taking on like 10 of you turkeys by myself with very little backing. But I do have a valid argument and all I'm getting for it is mockery and shaming for my sexual beliefs. Now you have your proof that it goes both ways but you're so bigoted in your views that you don't care about mine. You just want to trespass on my way of life and that's very wrong. I'm not trying to get involved in the gay functions out there but they are certainly trying to get into mine. There's enough room in this world for them to have their land and me and my crowd to have ours. It doesn't have to be an integrated nightmare for everyone.