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Old 05-23-13, 01:29 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve View Post
Reload times are problematic. Way back when Beery changed them from 3 seconds to 20 or 30 seconds there were huge arguments with people insisting they had "proof" that he was wrong.

A 3-4" gun (which includes the 8.8cm gun) can be reloaded in 3-4 seconds, and that is provable. The problem is that when the waves rise, people have to keep their balance, and even light shells are harder to handle. The next problem is that while the gun can be reloaded that quickly, unless the target is 500 meters away the gun captain has to actually aim after each shot. The further the distance the more he has to think about it. Then when there is the problem that a submarine is round, and not really a good gun platform. The gun captain has to "fire on the roll" as they did in the sailing ship days. He has to wait until the boat rolls to the correct position before he can fire.

Unfortunately the game doesn't take any of that into account. If you set it for three seconds they will fire that quickly in the worst weather. If you set it for twenty you'll be waiting that long in perfectly flat seas.

I use Commander to set mine to 12 seconds for the 8.8cm gun and 15 for the 10.5cm gun. I have the allowed firing weather to be 11 m/s because the AA guns are higher up and I think should fire in that weather (not that I ever use them anyway), but I manually disable the deck gun at 7 m/s.
There is no one size fits all answer here as Steve is pointing out, some folks complain its too short, so it gets adjusted then they whine cause its too long.

I set mine to 4 seconds and i dont use it unless the sea state is pretty much calm. every documentary or photo i have seen of u-boats using the deck gun has been in pretty calm seas - additionally, i think the deck gun was often used at close in ranges - not at the long 10,000+ meter shots that require a lot of guess work... but more likely fired at 3000 m or less

I have frequently used this video on youtube to make my case for reload times...

many people point out that the video is cut up, and it is

HOWEVER between the 0:35 - 0:47 time stamps the video is *not* cut up and you can clearly see a shot, a shell casing discarded, a new round put in, and a second shot being fired and all of this taking place within a matter of about 4.75 seconds
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