I mean, if you cannot hear it and you don't want to ping or make it shoot somehow, there's no way you can find it. Kilo or not, any sub at 0kn are difficult to detect passively unless you crash into them...that's a matter of fact. So, make them come out somehow...
A possible solution would be the MAD on the ORION...
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