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Originally Posted by mookiemookie
And if thousands of people die or lose their property before your local city-state gets its crap together and organizes an effective fire protection plan, so what, eh? "Well dang ol' shoot, that horse drawn pump didn't work real good. hyuk, hyuk."
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And what if that happens under administration by a parasitic state government where polticians have very different interests, necessarily?
Hongkong is what comes very close to a city state. Do you claim they are incapable to maintain a good firebrigade becasue the Chinese or British government do not tell them how to do it?
Can people not learn from experience if there is no big state that tells them how to do things? Have we already come this far...?
Some of you guys simply are used to get annied by a superstate all the time, could it be? Not to bear respknsibility, but being able to always point demands at the state that he should proivide this, and that he shpould do that? Well, thatr is exactly the root evil that is the basis for all the deformations and perversions we see today.
If there is a city state like Hamburg, for example, or New York city, then apparently they can perfectly set up a police department and fire department without Berlin or Washington managing it.
And what about the German system of volunteers serving in firebrigades and maintaining them? The system worked well until here. If the public tax system gets abandoned where poltiicians claim the right to decide what your property is beign consumed for, and in autonomous regions the people decide that themselves without a distant central giovernment, they will see whether or not it is in their interest to voluntarily set up a fire brigade and contribute to it. A central state government is not needed there. Like I do not need a EU commission telling me what to eat and what not. When i feel sick, I go to a doctor all by myself. When he tells me this and that, I will decide myself whether consequences for me will include changes of my diet, or not. I do not need any EU messias telling me what I have to do and what not in order to get saved from myself.
Sorry, yours is a complete non-argument there.