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Skybird · 04-16-13, 09:07 AM

Firefighting is not about providing security in the meaning of liberal economics, Mookie. It can be left to people living in a region how they want to arrange it all by themselves, there is no state needed to tell people that they must have a firebriagde and how to organise it. Leave it to themselves. If they fail and the fire hurst them sufficiently, next time they will do it better, promised.

Protection in liberal economic model as propagated here means the protection of private property against aggression since this guarantee is th every basis of every conception of the term "freedom" worth the name. If property is not respected and state or aggressors are allowed to interfere with how and what you do with your property, can enforce access to it, can legally steal it, then freedom is taken away more and more. So, protection means: guarantees in terms of juristic, policing and military terms. In a self-governing local community, people are free to organise their firefighting according to the way they like it. If they do not like it, they move away, or do it differently. Mind you, the model implies a huge number of small local, self-governing communities like you had in Europe and especially Germany before Germany became a unified national state. The time when Germany consisted of dozens and hundreds of regional autark and independent kingdoms and small "countries", was the time when German culture blossomed more than ever before and after. The regions competed for the best artists, thinkers, scientist, engineers, and they had to.

Firebrigades in Germany today by majority are the work of volunteers, and it is very effective a system especially in regions with small population levels . The EU now wants to enforce rules that they shall not volunteer anymore at all if the total working hours per week from their regular jobs and their volunteering mission lies beyond the legal maximum.

In other words, the EU demand control over people voluntary engagements and the their private time. Another of these so very very typical EU stunts that aim at subjecting every aspect of people's lives and thoughts and acts and doings to Brussel'S supervision.

Firebrigades across all of Germany and many stations are threatened by this. If this law comes, the German system will simply collapse.

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u_crank again, the question before, this reading maybe:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe16.html

At roughly the middle, under the subtitle "The Idea of a Private Law Society". Cannot hurt to read the first half before as well, since it deals with criticism of democratic and classical liberalism and the role of the state in both.

04-16-13, 09:07 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,666 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Firefighting is not about providing security in the meaning of liberal economics, Mookie. It can be left to people living in a region how they want to arrange it all by themselves, there is no state needed to tell people that they must have a firebriagde and how to organise it. Leave it to themselves. If they fail and the fire hurst them sufficiently, next time they will do it better, promised. Protection in liberal economic model as propagated here means the protection of private property against aggression since this guarantee is th every basis of every conception of the term "freedom" worth the name. If property is not respected and state or aggressors are allowed to interfere with how and what you do with your property, can enforce access to it, can legally steal it, then freedom is taken away more and more. So, protection means: guarantees in terms of juristic, policing and military terms. In a self-governing local community, people are free to organise their firefighting according to the way they like it. If they do not like it, they move away, or do it differently. Mind you, the model implies a huge number of small local, self-governing communities like you had in Europe and especially Germany before Germany became a unified national state. The time when Germany consisted of dozens and hundreds of regional autark and independent kingdoms and small "countries", was the time when German culture blossomed more than ever before and after. The regions competed for the best artists, thinkers, scientist, engineers, and they had to. Firebrigades in Germany today by majority are the work of volunteers, and it is very effective a system especially in regions with small population levels . The EU now wants to enforce rules that they shall not volunteer anymore at all if the total working hours per week from their regular jobs and their volunteering mission lies beyond the legal maximum. In other words, the EU demand control over people voluntary engagements and the their private time. Another of these so very very typical EU stunts that aim at subjecting every aspect of people's lives and thoughts and acts and doings to Brussel'S supervision. Firebrigades across all of Germany and many stations are threatened by this. If this law comes, the German system will simply collapse. --- u_crank again, the question before, this reading maybe: http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe16.html At roughly the middle, under the subtitle "The Idea of a Private Law Society". Cannot hurt to read the first half before as well, since it deals with criticism of democratic and classical liberalism and the role of the state in both. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.