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Old 04-11-13, 03:06 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by mapuc View Post
Let me first make something clear, so you don't misunderstand me.

This arms, weapons problem is an all American domestics issue

And it's not my intention to get involved into this

And it is not my intention to "scrabble" the word in your 2nd Amendment
Understood and please let me make clear that if I use the word "you" in the context that I did:
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when you start redefining one of them
...I did not mean you personally.

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From my knowledge about this issue, there are two major point in this 2nd Amendment

1. Doesn't say what kind of weapon it have to be
2. It says that every American has the right to defend he/her self. And an assault weapon is not a weapon to defend, but use to..mainly... assault.
A couple notes about that:

1. No it doesn't specify the specific type of weapon although "arms" has always meant the arms and equipment which would be useful to the militia. I would submit that one would be hard pressed to find a firearm more suited to that particular role than an AR-15.

2. "Assault weapon" as used in American gun debates is a politically made up name having no real definition. Guns on the AW ban list are functionally the same as ones that are not. The only real identifiable difference seems to be that an assault weapon looks scarier than other firearms. This is on purpose IMO because once this banned list is passed into law just about any weapon can be added to it without futher legislation.

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If the writer of 2nd Amendment could see USA today, do you think, they would have written it in a different way?
Fair question. Yes, I believe they would have significantly strengthened the language to prevent the kind of infringements that we're seeing today, not only regarding the 2A but the others as well.

Like Ducimus points out you can't look at the gun debate as a stand alone issue. In the past 20 years or so in particular all civil liberties have been significantly limited by a national government that has grown huge and increasingly oppressive.

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I hope that you government will come up with a solution that's a win win for both side.

Markus
Thank you for your sentiment and I would share your hope except that I know the anti-gun side will never be satisfied with an AW or magazine ban. It would just become the new starting point for further restrictions and infringements until the RKBA is totally eliminated and/or it causes the country to fragment into warring states. Some say (not me) that we're at this point already.
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