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Old 04-05-13, 10:12 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! View Post
Do we really assume that people who are in low-paid service industries are there because they want to be? All of them? Are they there because they want to be? All of them? There may be a raft of reasons why a person works for Maccas. Not all of them are as clear cut as we like think.
I would say it's just the opposite - no one wants to work in fast food. The people who do either aren't qualified to do anything else, or are doing it until an opportunity opens up in their chosen field. The problem is that if prices go up to cover such a raise, people will stop eating there. The people demanding this kind of raise will be the first to go.

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Because they are not worth $15 an hour. Is that your personal belief? How do you know? Do you know what's in their contract or workplace agreement? Do you know what that person or persons that work at the particular store mentioned in the article performance is like? Are you their superior who does performance reviews on them? Are you the person that sets out the award rates for people that work for McDonald's? No?
OK.
Are you? From the article it seems to be the belief of the people who are in those positions, and they said so. This means that you are the one on the outside trying to tell them what they should do, not the other way around.

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Offered management positions? Well then, obviously they can't be that bad then, to be offered management positions they must have above average performance levels then. And to boot, must be worth more than the $8.72 per hour that is currently offered to them. No?
Yes, the people qualified for those management positions are worth the extra money. You seem to be of the opinion that people not qualified for better positions should get the extra money anyway. Raises go to people who earn them.

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However does that in your eyes exclude them from a wage increase due for reasons i already mentioned above? I f you say yes, then i'm disappointed.
You've mentioned a wage increase several times. Maybe you haven't noticed that these entry-level workers aren't asking for an increase. They're asking that the starting wage be doubled. No company can afford to do that.

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Funny that, i don't get any 'give me' attitude at all from these people. The only sense i'm getting is that it's dam tough to put food on the table for $8.72 per hour. Or dam tough to feed the kids. Or dam tough to provide for loved ones.
Yes it is. The correct answer is to learn new skills that are worth more money. Employers pay what the service is worth, not what you or anyone else says they should.

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Next we move onto your 'fat paycheck'. Laughable. A fat paycheck is what? $15 per hour?
You have to be kidding me right?
Actually that is an outstanding wage for someone with minimal or no job skill. I don't know what world you live in, but I would jump on a job that paid that much. Of course I know people my age who make ten times that or more, but they have a lifetime of service behind them and are actually worth that to their employers.

Again, you get paid what you're worth, not what you demand.
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