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Old 03-31-13, 10:25 PM   #64
Aramike
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Originally Posted by Tribesman View Post
Take away the mod cons and you could be talking about ancient rome, royalist and repulican france, imperial china or victorian britain.


The cycle of poverty didn't end with poor laws deportations or imprisonment either, all the "get tough" measures on the "****less wastrels" have made no impact at all over the centuries.
What you are suggesting is a re-run of useless approach which has failed hundreds or thousands of times already and has never shown even the slightest hint of working.
Makes for good populist headlines though doesn't it.

edit to add. silly ******** filter doesn't understand english, the word is **** not ****
I'm not disagreeing with you that any approach which is designed merely to restrict the impact upon the taxpayer is likely to fail as well.

My point is simple: when we take the misery out of poverty, we remove the primary motivation for self-sufficiency.

Now I'm not suggesting letting people starve in the streets. What I *AM* suggesting is that we do everything we can in service of assuring that the recipients of the state's largesse are both the truly needy AND as equipped as possible to get out of the system. I don't mind the price tag - I would think we can agree that the goal is to help people help themselves.

As for the rest, Haplo seems to be doing fine.
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