Just trawling through the forums (signed up yesterday) and see the sentences for murder. I dont know where that is for, but in New Zealand murder is generally 20 years, even less for good behavior and parole. What on earth is up with that.
Anyways I was there when me and a couple of my mates were mugged by 5 hoodlums from a local gang (3 cheers for living i the gang part of town). one was holding a rather long kitchen knife and another a hammer. They took my friends phone, but me and my other mate wouldn't give them anything. they just left. The guy was given juvie for a bunch of crimes a year later.